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How Educational Differences

artappraiser — Wed, 08 Sep 2021 18:15:11 +0000

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How Educational Differences Are Widening America’s Political Rift https://t.co/8Xk8CXGwnX
— Thomas Edsall (@Edsall) September 8, 2021

p.s. Yang's got proof it's

artappraiser — Wed, 08 Sep 2021 05:46:13 +0000

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p.s. Yang's got proof it's not just a minor university thing, like some here at Dagblog have argued, it's in government documents that are paid for with taxes; he retweeted this for example:

For example, "assigned male/female at birth" is preferable to "biologically male/female," according to the guide—which also stresses that public health officials should "avoid jargon and use straightforward, easy to understand language." https://t.co/Yl22vp3nTK
— Aaron Sibarium (@aaronsibarium) September 7, 2021

This is exactly the kind of nonsense that Shor is talking about (and Carville for that matter, in saying "The Woke are a problem, and everyone knows it"), the type of thing that Republicans play up big. And exactly the kind of thing that turns off normal people as nonsense from moonbeam elites that they don't want to see in their government. And they certainly don't want to see their taxes go to it. Nor do they want to see government bureaucrats talking this way.

Shor making controversial

artappraiser — Wed, 08 Sep 2021 05:33:44 +0000

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Shor making controversial arguments about electoral politics that are obvious to anyone not living in fantasy.

Successor Ideology, however, is optimized for obtaining non electoral power: terrorizing your peers into acquiescence does indeed produce unanimity of thought pic.twitter.com/6Mptu80cnj
— Wesley Yang (@wesyang) September 8, 2021

And a system with a powerful administrative state embedded within a sprawling nonprofit sector controlled by the white graduates who are 5 percent of the electorate but the majority of the political class recommends “sex assigned at birth” as the correct way to speak
— Wesley Yang (@wesyang) September 8, 2021

Nobody elected anyone responsible for any of this: donor money and a pipeline of sinecures for categories of college students manufactured the moral crisis of cis hegemony and and now fights it with inclusive language mandates https://t.co/6Jy5Jm6LHO
— Wesley Yang (@wesyang) September 8, 2021

It’s all an enormous make work program for moral entrepreneurs
— Wesley Yang (@wesyang) September 8, 2021

Transcript of this interview: https://t.co/kU81QWJ3fm
— Wesley Yang (@wesyang) September 8, 2021

one thing I notice is the

artappraiser — Mon, 06 Sep 2021 19:50:48 +0000

In reply to Trump's coalition got and is

one thing I notice is the right wingers are not just attacking the crime thing, they are stressing that all urban areas under blue government are having a downfall of civilization:

They love to show poverty in India but never talk about homeless people there https://t.co/tCxuWNUEW2
— Mohit Gulati (@desimojito) September 6, 2021

Get out of cities
— Jack Posobiec (@JackPosobiec) September 5, 2021

I have no idea who this Mohit Gulati is that's retweeting Posobiec, he says "global citizen" but I note the Indian flag and that he has 137,000 + followers, some of which no doubt would be Indian-Americans.

Edit to add this which was tweeted in reply to Posobiec:

Welcome to Boston pic.twitter.com/ZeLHsSfzMk
— Bryan Goldie (@brygoldie) September 6, 2021

Trump's coalition got and is

Orion — Mon, 06 Sep 2021 07:29:52 +0000

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Trump's coalition got and is getting browner and the liberal camp appears to be attracting more and more white people. Someone smarter than me can figure all that out.

"Do you think the Democratic

artappraiser — Sat, 04 Sep 2021 22:13:37 +0000

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"Do you think the Democratic Party should move more to the left and embrace more liberal policies, move more to the center and embrace more moderate policies, or ... stay where it is?"

White Dems: 39 move to center, 32 move to left
Black Dems: 41 move to center, 23 move to left
— Will Saletan (@saletan) September 4, 2021

Full data (among Democrats):

All: 40 move to center, 29 move to left, 31 stay
White: 39 move to center, 32 move to left, 29 stay
Hispanic: 39 move to center, 29 move to left, 32 stay
Black: 41 move to center, 23 move to left, 36 stay

Source: https://t.co/qVrGsGhjSn
— Will Saletan (@saletan) September 4, 2021

Same poll: Black voters support "the Biden administration passing legislation to invest in things like paid leave, public education, and an expansion of Medicare that includes dental and vision benefits," 87-6. Dem voters support it 91-3.

Breakdowns by (party x race) not shown.
— Will Saletan (@saletan) September 4, 2021

“If you had told me in 2012

artappraiser — Sat, 04 Sep 2021 17:27:11 +0000

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“If you had told me in 2012 that most of the Democratic field would embrace [slavery] reparations and decriminalising border crossings, I would have thought that a joke.” Talking about divisive issues or issues that “people don’t care about”, said Shor, is damaging. Most voters know this, but many in the media and politics do not.

The problem is that political debate is shaped by the few, not the many. Young white graduates, Shor noted, account for one in 20 voters, yet make up “a literal majority of people who work in politics”. Many are unaware of, or uninterested in, the unpopularity of their own biases.

Biden is from a different political generation, one that Shor believes has a better grip on how to retain power. “Biden just intuitively understands that defunding the police is crazy.” Yet as the US has polarised in recent decades – for every 100 voters, only a handful are now swing voters – the rules of the game have changed. The incentives for young politicians today are clear: raise money from the hyper-engaged, cater to hyper-partisan outlets, and build a digital following. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the Democratic congresswoman from New York, exemplifies the new tribal politician.

For Shor, it is clear how to approach politics. “Winning is very important. You should do popular things. You should actually appeal to the median voter. I guess you can call it ‘popularism’.” To win, Democrats need to “keep the conversation on the issues that people trust us on, and away from the issues that they don’t”. It is hard for parties of the centre-left to win by talking about immigration and crime, or the more radical aspects of social justice, added Shor.

"If a politician or activist

artappraiser — Sat, 04 Sep 2021 17:17:09 +0000

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"If a politician or activist ignores the public, Shor told me, it is easy for them to think “we’re so progressive, we’re so amazing”. But what they are really doing is “privileging the concerns of rich, educated people”." https://t.co/6GhMUmU7Qp
— Peter Moskos (@PeterMoskos) September 3, 2021

More white women than men

Aaron Carine — Fri, 03 Sep 2021 19:35:22 +0000

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More white women than men voted for Trump? That's not how I heard it. I read that he got the votes of 72 percent of white men without a college degree, and 62 percent of the white women without one. For whites with a college degree it was 54 percent of the men and 45 percent of the women.

Separate point added by

artappraiser — Fri, 03 Sep 2021 09:57:10 +0000

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Separate point added by Yglesias:

In my precinct in DC, Trump supported shot up by 50 percent between 2016 and 2020.

At this pace, Logan Circle will be a GOP stronghold by 2044. pic.twitter.com/R7ZdmuCm7w
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) September 3, 2021