dagblog - Comments for "Who Will Wrest Haiti From the Grip of Gang Rule?" http://dagblog.com/link/who-will-wrest-haiti-grip-gang-rule-34678 Comments for "Who Will Wrest Haiti From the Grip of Gang Rule?" en bluntly: http://dagblog.com/comment/310764#comment-310764 <a id="comment-310764"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/who-will-wrest-haiti-grip-gang-rule-34678">Who Will Wrest Haiti From the Grip of Gang Rule?</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>bluntly:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Only parts of the world that have seen police abolition are maybe remote regions of Afghanistan or Haiti where warlords and gangs rule instead.</p> — Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZaidJilani/status/1450633263920320518?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p>Haiti needs<em> rule of law</em>. It has to be <em>desired by the citizens </em>(many African societies finally ahead of them on that, just beginning with making it work.) They'd have to leave behind a culture where one curries favor with whoever has power right now to get food or money or whatever.</p> <p>Anarchists are full of bullshit, deluded about human nature. Sometimes a grifter or murderer is just a criminal that can't be reformed; we left Freud's ideas behind a long time ago about it all being caused by your childhood.</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 20 Oct 2021 01:36:52 +0000 artappraiser comment 310764 at http://dagblog.com Haiti kidnappers 'demand $17m http://dagblog.com/comment/310749#comment-310749 <a id="comment-310749"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/who-will-wrest-haiti-grip-gang-rule-34678">Who Will Wrest Haiti From the Grip of Gang Rule?</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Haiti kidnappers 'demand $17m' for the missionaries<a href="https://t.co/kYPbH74RNi">https://t.co/kYPbH74RNi</a></p> — Okami Wolfen (@okamalita) <a href="https://twitter.com/okamalita/status/1450521615805161474?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Report: Haiti’s 400 Mawozo Gang Seeks $17M For Kidnapped US Missionaries <a href="https://t.co/aBhbG95qaR">https://t.co/aBhbG95qaR</a></p> — KBXX 97.9 The Box (@979TheBox) <a href="https://twitter.com/979TheBox/status/1450521654031945735?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Tue, 19 Oct 2021 17:53:26 +0000 artappraiser comment 310749 at http://dagblog.com The missionaries were from an http://dagblog.com/comment/310725#comment-310725 <a id="comment-310725"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/310687#comment-310687">American Missionaries</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The missionaries were from an Ohio organization founded by Amish &amp; Mennonites, not your typical roving evangelists:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Praying for my fellow Anabaptists in Haiti right now... <a href="https://t.co/PTZoYux6Z4">https://t.co/PTZoYux6Z4</a></p> — Andrew Zimmerman (@Zimmerman1n) <a href="https://twitter.com/Zimmerman1n/status/1450004714674864138?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 18, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Mon, 18 Oct 2021 07:49:55 +0000 artappraiser comment 310725 at http://dagblog.com Flogblog http://dagblog.com/comment/310719#comment-310719 <a id="comment-310719"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/310707#comment-310707">Gabblog or Dagblog?  </a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Flogblog</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 18 Oct 2021 00:05:41 +0000 A Guy Called LULU comment 310719 at http://dagblog.com Gabba Gabba Hey! http://dagblog.com/comment/310714#comment-310714 <a id="comment-310714"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/310707#comment-310707">Gabblog or Dagblog?  </a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Gabba Gabba Hey!</p> <p><a href="https://youtu.be/_57MlYta3E4">https://youtu.be/_57MlYta3E4</a></p> </div></div></div> Sun, 17 Oct 2021 23:15:03 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 310714 at http://dagblog.com Gabblog or Dagblog?   http://dagblog.com/comment/310707#comment-310707 <a id="comment-310707"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/310705#comment-310705">well here&#039;s some more. I</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Gabblog or Dagblog?  </p> </div></div></div> Sun, 17 Oct 2021 22:18:17 +0000 NCD comment 310707 at http://dagblog.com well here's some more. I http://dagblog.com/comment/310705#comment-310705 <a id="comment-310705"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/310703#comment-310703">I think you are intelligent</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>well here's some more. I think it's highly interesting and a important clue to understanding all the conspiracizng that is part and parcel of the Haiti. Where there is no rule of law, a lot more people tend to do that, because they don't know who to trust and they blame anyone that fits their conspiracy theories for the situation they are in.</p> <p>Plus here, politically conservative missionaries are bearing the blunt of this, from leftists, rather than the other way around! I think all of that is HIGHLY interesting.</p> <p>Here she's not afraid of basically accusing the NYTimes of lying and covering up, to he, it is western missionaries that a major part of Haiti's problems. She's going to smear them with claims of heinous acts any chance she gets, yes, it is like Infowars of the left, and it must be working or she wouldn't keep doing it.</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">"What is Christian Aid Ministries and what does it do in Haiti?"<br /><br /> It's a child trafficking / child sex ring that kidnaps <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Haiti?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Haiti</a>'s children from poor parents to fill their fake orphanages for profit and criminal / perverted sexual gratification. . <a href="https://t.co/V0k4iGWbBH">https://t.co/V0k4iGWbBH</a></p> — Madame Boukman - Justice 4 Haiti (@madanboukman) <a href="https://twitter.com/madanboukman/status/1449838414396903440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p>Clearly, her game is always blame "the west." And hyerbole about evil. Just like a lot of the U.S. left does. Nobody's responsible for their own country because "the west" screwed them 200 years ago (yes I am refering to something else posted on this thread that I am sick of hearing as an excuse, cause "the west" has spent a ton of money on Haiti in the late 20th century and look what's still up there!) or it's CIA meddling or some such.</p> <p>Hey did anyone ever inform Haiti that they are actually part of The West? Just sayin', maybe one solution is realizing that. And let go of the shit that happened more than 200 years ago might help. Constantly thinking of yourself as hapless dumb victims that don't no nothing bout living in the 21st century might help too?</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 17 Oct 2021 21:25:13 +0000 artappraiser comment 310705 at http://dagblog.com do you really think I believe http://dagblog.com/comment/310704#comment-310704 <a id="comment-310704"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/310703#comment-310703">I think you are intelligent</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>do you really think I believe those missionaries are raping the children like she says?</p> <p>Is there nowhere one can do this kind of analysis, even little Dagblog with 10 users, one has to censor what one shares because there might be stupid people reading it? The Madam already has 18K+ followers on Twitter. but my sharing on Dagblog the strum and drang she is trying to stir up is going to increase it?</p> <p>Is discussing Infowars off the table too then? One must never ever talk about what he's up to? Unless it's explained in a pedantic manner like as if to a child? One cannot presume grownups are using this website?</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 17 Oct 2021 21:08:18 +0000 artappraiser comment 310704 at http://dagblog.com I think you are intelligent http://dagblog.com/comment/310703#comment-310703 <a id="comment-310703"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/310702#comment-310702">Madame Boukman also said in</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I think you are intelligent enough to handle me posting shit that shows the type of inflammatory lies and arguments that are happening. NO? Your not smart enough to handle that info.? I have to explain why I find it interesting? What I said wasn't enough, that the missionaries obviously are controversial enough to attract the interest of like, Haiti's version of Infowars? That <em>this incident is stirring a lot of shit and here's some examples I'm seeing? </em></p> <p>You call it spreading disinfo, I call it trying to figure out what a mess of inflammatory emotional disinfo. Haiti is.</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 17 Oct 2021 20:55:22 +0000 artappraiser comment 310703 at http://dagblog.com Madame Boukman also said in http://dagblog.com/comment/310702#comment-310702 <a id="comment-310702"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/310701#comment-310701">It seems that these</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Madame Boukman also said (or reposted?) in 2020 that Japan sent "radioactive rice" to Haiti with evil motives.</p> <p>The rice was sent in 2012 (note she was ranting about it in 2020) <a href="https://m.facebook.com/173752352738766/posts/fukjapanvia-madame-boukman-justice-4-haiti-madanboukmanjapan-the-privileged-part/2744600578987251/">link</a>. She also claimed in same tweet California rice is poisonous. Japan' response from <a href="https://www.haitilibre.com/en/news-6928-haiti-health-japan-denies-that-the-rice-delivered-in-haiti-is-contaminated.html">2012</a>.</p> <p>She's seems to be an Infowars like wackjob.</p> <p>You might check into people you post. You are spreading unsupported  defamatory lies from crackpots with unknown, delusional personal agendas. If you care, or can tell the difference, between reasonable and nuts.</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 17 Oct 2021 18:28:34 +0000 NCD comment 310702 at http://dagblog.com