dagblog - Comments for "What a surprise, BLM 2020 was a big FAIL" http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/what-surprise-blm-2020-was-big-fail-34723 Comments for "What a surprise, BLM 2020 was a big FAIL" en pic.twitter.com/PlFlUcO94N http://dagblog.com/comment/319933#comment-319933 <a id="comment-319933"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/what-surprise-blm-2020-was-big-fail-34723">What a surprise, BLM 2020 was a big FAIL</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p><a href="https://t.co/PlFlUcO94N">pic.twitter.com/PlFlUcO94N</a></p> — Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZaidJilani/status/1560279613640687616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 18, 2022</a></blockquote> </div> <p>The protests cost taxpayers a lot of money among many many other downsides.</p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Thu, 18 Aug 2022 15:53:40 +0000 artappraiser comment 319933 at http://dagblog.com Abraham Lincoln on the http://dagblog.com/comment/311908#comment-311908 <a id="comment-311908"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/what-surprise-blm-2020-was-big-fail-34723">What a surprise, BLM 2020 was a big FAIL</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Abraham Lincoln on the existential threat of vigilantism — from his Address Before the Young Men's Lyceum of Springfield, Illinois<br /> January 27, 1838 <a href="https://t.co/PF5VrAULjF">pic.twitter.com/PF5VrAULjF</a></p> — Philip Gourevitch (@PGourevitch) <a href="https://twitter.com/PGourevitch/status/1461797124002230281?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">For a bit more on the context and relevance of Lincoln’s Lyceum speech: Abraham Lincoln Warned Us About Donald Trump <a href="https://t.co/hTa06mIxfu">https://t.co/hTa06mIxfu</a></p> — Philip Gourevitch (@PGourevitch) <a href="https://twitter.com/PGourevitch/status/1461801174928142342?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Always worth your time to read the whole magnificent speech: <a href="https://t.co/OfT36ImBXF">https://t.co/OfT36ImBXF</a></p> — Philip Gourevitch (@PGourevitch) <a href="https://twitter.com/PGourevitch/status/1461801518391336960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Fri, 19 Nov 2021 21:05:23 +0000 artappraiser comment 311908 at http://dagblog.com “Not only did the protest http://dagblog.com/comment/311907#comment-311907 <a id="comment-311907"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/what-surprise-blm-2020-was-big-fail-34723">What a surprise, BLM 2020 was a big FAIL</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">“Not only did the protest movement fail to achieve its central objective—ending racist police violence—but the powerful backlash to it has smothered any sense of momentum.” <a href="https://t.co/VNBhz1jk6L">https://t.co/VNBhz1jk6L</a></p> — Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor (@KeeangaYamahtta) <a href="https://twitter.com/KeeangaYamahtta/status/1461801670464131080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">“It may be particularly demoralizing that some of the most outspoken critics of the left are Democrats themselves, reinforcing the cynicism among progressives that the Party is not a real vehicle for social change.”</p> — Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor (@KeeangaYamahtta) <a href="https://twitter.com/KeeangaYamahtta/status/1461802185017249795?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Fri, 19 Nov 2021 20:59:46 +0000 artappraiser comment 311907 at http://dagblog.com Who would have thought? https http://dagblog.com/comment/311737#comment-311737 <a id="comment-311737"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/what-surprise-blm-2020-was-big-fail-34723">What a surprise, BLM 2020 was a big FAIL</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Who would have thought? <a href="https://t.co/LYueXFclZ8">https://t.co/LYueXFclZ8</a></p> — Peter Moskos (@PeterMoskos) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeterMoskos/status/1460521503649411075?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Tue, 16 Nov 2021 11:10:54 +0000 artappraiser comment 311737 at http://dagblog.com Looking at this phenomenon I http://dagblog.com/comment/311703#comment-311703 <a id="comment-311703"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/what-surprise-blm-2020-was-big-fail-34723">What a surprise, BLM 2020 was a big FAIL</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/311702#comment-311702">Looking at this phenomenon </a>I suspect a considerable amount of the support for Rittenhouse is blowback/counterproductive results of badly organized and controlled BLM protests.</p> <p>A regards rioting and looting protesters or even just threatening-type protesters at night - </p> <p>(i.e., running through people's yards in Wauwautosa, WI; verbally harassing people eating outside in Florida; marching through gentrified neighborhoods in Portland and Seattle and yelling that they don't belong there; going inside restaurants in Rochester and ripping them apart in order to frighten customers)</p> <p>when legal civil law enforcement is the subject of the protests and for that reason civil law enforcement pulls back on enforcing civil disobedience,</p> <p>then people who are not being protected by civil law enforcement feel like they should be able to do the "vigilante" thing. If you're not going to provide them with sufficient law enforcement, then what else is there? </p> <p>Which ironically, in their continued support of "abolish police", official BLM needs to be straightforward about, they too would basically be in support of "vigilantism" without courts and without police, crime just won't disappear into thin air.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 15 Nov 2021 09:37:19 +0000 artappraiser comment 311703 at http://dagblog.com A columnist for Jacobin and http://dagblog.com/comment/311664#comment-311664 <a id="comment-311664"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/what-surprise-blm-2020-was-big-fail-34723">What a surprise, BLM 2020 was a big FAIL</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>A columnist for Jacobin and writer at The Nation argues it's been very counterproductive to the cause of police reform:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">i’m really genuinely curious <a href="https://twitter.com/RossBarkan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RossBarkan</a> what you think “reforms” are that you would like to see, that would actually change the nature of racist police violence, and that don’t have anything to do with diminishing the scope and scale of policing. lay it on me :) <a href="https://t.co/qYo4JhzmYS">https://t.co/qYo4JhzmYS</a></p> — kay gabriel (@unit01barbie) <a href="https://twitter.com/unit01barbie/status/1459339788943867912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 13, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">This isn't really hard. <a href="https://t.co/1dZYLAkYan">https://t.co/1dZYLAkYan</a><br /><br /> Your call to cut the NYPD budget in half is deeply unpopular in working-class Black, Latino and Asian communities. The socialist project is doomed if you can't see that. <a href="https://t.co/PNOszA5VWQ">https://t.co/PNOszA5VWQ</a></p> — Ross Barkan (@RossBarkan) <a href="https://twitter.com/RossBarkan/status/1459517754206212100?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 13, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p>I would also like to note that the two debaters are elite educated whites....It  appears, though,  that Kay Gabriel may be a <a href="https://entropymag.org/the-care-and-feeding-of-your-sex-change-vegan-passover-with-kay-gabriel/">proud trans person</a> who therefore rates as an oppressed minority despite  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kay_Gabriel">a PHD in classics</a>?</p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Sat, 13 Nov 2021 17:57:31 +0000 artappraiser comment 311664 at http://dagblog.com BLM is both a slogan http://dagblog.com/comment/311534#comment-311534 <a id="comment-311534"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/what-surprise-blm-2020-was-big-fail-34723">What a surprise, BLM 2020 was a big FAIL</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>BLM is both a slogan/outpouring of rage about lack of justice, and a socialist group with non-mai stream solutions. The outpouring of support last year was for the former. Excesses and damage from protests/how strangers were treated, along with impractical &amp; counterproductive proposals have largely turned "BLM" into an anchor weight, which is a great shame, because initially there was a positive reaction that was missing with the also admirable #TakeAKnee. But fringe groups are fringe for a reason. I remember 1 1/2 years ago a friend from Portland was posting some "funny" clip about supposed BLM protesters hassling and acting juvenile dancing around a street preacher. I noted at the time this would quickly turn negative if they didn't grow the fuck up, but he responded with the same attitude of the self-righteous, "we can do what we want" or equivalent.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 08 Nov 2021 08:01:50 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 311534 at http://dagblog.com Unfortunately, the handguns http://dagblog.com/comment/311530#comment-311530 <a id="comment-311530"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/311528#comment-311528">Great piece from </a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Unfortunately, the handguns and ammunition that huge numbers bought in mass quantities, frightened by "defund police" protests and associated rioting amplified by social media (not to mention intentionally lawless mob actions about things like statues) will not be so easy to get rid of and this country will suffer effects for a very long time.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 08 Nov 2021 06:58:52 +0000 artappraiser comment 311530 at http://dagblog.com "North Minneapolis Wards 4 http://dagblog.com/comment/311529#comment-311529 <a id="comment-311529"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/311528#comment-311528">Great piece from </a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">"North Minneapolis Wards 4 and 5, an area where a large portion of the city’s Black residents live, both rejected the measure"<a href="https://t.co/TM4nj4yPmO">https://t.co/TM4nj4yPmO</a></p> — Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1456716710971641861?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 5, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Mon, 08 Nov 2021 06:48:15 +0000 artappraiser comment 311529 at http://dagblog.com Great piece from http://dagblog.com/comment/311528#comment-311528 <a id="comment-311528"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/what-surprise-blm-2020-was-big-fail-34723">What a surprise, BLM 2020 was a big FAIL</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Great piece from <a href="https://twitter.com/danielmarans?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@danielmarans</a> on the collapse of the “defund police” movement which activists now seem to be trying to pretend wasn’t even a thing that happened. <a href="https://t.co/AfNA9HHGJt">https://t.co/AfNA9HHGJt</a></p> — Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1456710145317220358?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 5, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Mon, 08 Nov 2021 06:45:28 +0000 artappraiser comment 311528 at http://dagblog.com