dagblog - Comments for " Democrats clear procedural hurdle for Biden&#039;s $1.75 trillion social spending bill" http://dagblog.com/link/democrats-clear-procedural-hurdle-bidens-175-trillion-social-spending-bill-34763 Comments for " Democrats clear procedural hurdle for Biden's $1.75 trillion social spending bill" en thinking a while on how this http://dagblog.com/comment/311447#comment-311447 <a id="comment-311447"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/311423#comment-311423">POLITICO Playbook: How Biden</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>thinking a while on how this happened, what popped up in my mind is one of the things I myself admired about Bill Clinton as president is how he would work the phones tirelessly into the night and meet with any Congressperson (no matter how much they might hate him,) and basically do anything possible (including bribery with pork) to whip votes and get legislation he wanted passed, passed.</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 06 Nov 2021 23:46:34 +0000 artappraiser comment 311447 at http://dagblog.com There’s also some truth in http://dagblog.com/comment/311443#comment-311443 <a id="comment-311443"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/democrats-clear-procedural-hurdle-bidens-175-trillion-social-spending-bill-34763"> Democrats clear procedural hurdle for Biden&#039;s $1.75 trillion social spending bill</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><blockquote> <p>There’s also some truth in what Representative Abigail Spanberger, a moderate Virginia Democrat in a tough re-election battle, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/03/us/politics/democrat-losses-2022.html" title="">told The Times’s</a> Jonathan Martin and Alexander Burns about the president: “Nobody elected him to be F.D.R., they elected him to be normal and stop the chaos.”</p> </blockquote> <p>from</p> <p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/06/opinion/sunday/democrats-elections.html"><u>Wokeness Derails the Democrats</u></a></p> <p>By Maureen Dowd @ NYTimes. com, Nov. 6, 2021</p> <p>So he's back on the path he ran on, with The Squad voting against what he wanted and a bunch of Republicans helping him by going against Kevin McCarthy's wishes and what their own electorate wants?</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 06 Nov 2021 23:19:23 +0000 artappraiser comment 311443 at http://dagblog.com I was watching this dumb http://dagblog.com/comment/311431#comment-311431 <a id="comment-311431"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/311428#comment-311428">so just wait until your brain</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I was watching this dumb video on Facebook where a woman threw some trash out the window and a guy on a bike followed her to make her pick it up (he brought it with him). I knew it was bullshit, totally contrived click-baity stuff, but inside i could feel it still aroused my emotions. Easily manipulated beasts we are. Important to remember with all this dog-whistling, etc.</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 06 Nov 2021 19:54:11 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 311431 at http://dagblog.com so just wait until your brain http://dagblog.com/comment/311428#comment-311428 <a id="comment-311428"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/311426#comment-311426">Meanwhile, across the pond,</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>so just wait until your brain stops firing and try to think logically:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">“It doesn’t matter how old we get, we can’t stop our brains from firing when we feel we’ve suffered an injustice.” via <a href="https://twitter.com/trumwill?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@trumwill</a> <a href="https://t.co/Vh96rJSsTo">https://t.co/Vh96rJSsTo</a> <a href="https://t.co/GtA848yrQv">pic.twitter.com/GtA848yrQv</a></p> — Omar Wasow (@owasow) <a href="https://twitter.com/owasow/status/1456978990472650756?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Sat, 06 Nov 2021 19:12:05 +0000 artappraiser comment 311428 at http://dagblog.com Meanwhile, across the pond, http://dagblog.com/comment/311426#comment-311426 <a id="comment-311426"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/311423#comment-311423">POLITICO Playbook: How Biden</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Meanwhile, across the pond, evidence that the idea that ethnic tribalism is a permanent human condition is a bullshit fallacy and a troublemaking one at that:</p> <div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>If all those generations of French and Germans who fought each other could have seen this ... <a href="https://t.co/S46VsOom5p">https://t.co/S46VsOom5p</a></p> — Alex Taylor (@AlexTaylorNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlexTaylorNews/status/1456158636628131841?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 4, 2021</a></blockquote> </div> </div></div></div> Sat, 06 Nov 2021 19:03:31 +0000 artappraiser comment 311426 at http://dagblog.com P.S. I'm liking the http://dagblog.com/comment/311425#comment-311425 <a id="comment-311425"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/311424#comment-311424">^ note that the above</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>P.S. I'm liking the sarcastic skepticism of this free-lance pop-cuture guy too:</p> <div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>I bet AOC was getting camera ready for the failure of the infrastructure bill and was picking out dresses to wear for the press conferences.<br /><br /> “Jamaal, hold my purse, I like this dress the best, is it too busy?”</p> — Jason Elias (@Zebop) <a href="https://twitter.com/Zebop/status/1457040093512978448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 6, 2021</a></blockquote> </div> </div></div></div> Sat, 06 Nov 2021 18:34:17 +0000 artappraiser comment 311425 at http://dagblog.com ^ note that the above http://dagblog.com/comment/311424#comment-311424 <a id="comment-311424"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/311423#comment-311423">POLITICO Playbook: How Biden</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>^ note that the above narrative that the Squad tried to fuck Pelosi and that the 13 brave Republicans were the heroes of the day for Biden was co-written by this man, one to watch:</p> <blockquote> <p>ABOUT THE AUTHOR: EUGENE DANIELS</p> <p><a href="https://www.politico.com/staff/eugene-daniels" target="_top"><img alt="Eugene Daniels" src="https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/23dadbb/2147483647/legacy_thumbnail/91x91%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F23%2F5b%2F44d74772476c99a239eb2f286753%2Fpb-eugene-headshot.jpg" /></a>Eugene Daniels is a Playbook author and White House correspondent, with a focus on Vice President Kamala Harris, First Lady Dr. Jill Biden, the Second Gentleman and emerging power players in Washington. Since joining POLITICO in 2018, he’s covered the midterms, the Democratic presidential primary and general election through print, video journalism and podcasts. Eugene will continue to leverage POLITICO's many platforms as part of the Playbook team. During the country’s reckoning with race in 2020, Eugene moderated POLITICO’s Confronting Inequality Town Hall series that examined how inequities in policing, housing, healthcare, education and employment permeate and plague the United States. Prior to POLITICO, Eugene covered the 2016 primary, general election and national politics as a political reporter at Newsy. He began his career in local television in Colorado Springs and graduated from Colorado State University in 2012.</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Sat, 06 Nov 2021 18:28:51 +0000 artappraiser comment 311424 at http://dagblog.com POLITICO Playbook: How Biden http://dagblog.com/comment/311423#comment-311423 <a id="comment-311423"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/democrats-clear-procedural-hurdle-bidens-175-trillion-social-spending-bill-34763"> Democrats clear procedural hurdle for Biden&#039;s $1.75 trillion social spending bill</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><a href="https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2021/11/06/how-biden-and-pelosi-saved-bif-495005">POLITICO Playbook: How Biden and Pelosi saved BIF</a></p> <p>By <a href="https://www.politico.com/staff/ryan-lizza">RYAN LIZZA</a> and <a href="https://www.politico.com/staff/eugene-daniels">EUGENE DANIELS</a> 11/06/2021 11:18 AM EDT</p> <blockquote> <p>[....]<strong> It was the same process issue that has bedeviled Democrats all year: </strong>Progressives refused to vote for the bipartisan infrastructure bill (BIF), the prized piece of legislation for moderates, unless it was attached to the larger Build Back Better reconciliation bill (BBB), the crown jewel of progressive policy-making.</p> <p><strong>The standoff twice humiliated Pelosi and Biden</strong> when the president and the speaker tried and failed to pass BIF in September and October. The deadlock dragged down Biden’s poll numbers and may have helped cost <strong>TERRY MCAULIFFE</strong> the governorship of Virginia.</p> <p><strong>So instead of relaxing at the beach, Biden set up a war room</strong> in the White House. He gathered Vice President <strong>KAMALA HARRIS</strong> and his top policy and legislative aides in the second floor residence and spent the night calling House members.</p> <p><strong>On the Hill, Speaker NANCY PELOSI tried to downplay the disarray.</strong> “Welcome to my world,” <a href="https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1456724325516648451" target="_blank">she told reporters</a>. “This is the Democratic Party.” In the old days, she suggested, a deal between warring factions — like the ones led by Congressional Progressive Caucus Chair <strong>PRAMILA JAYAPAL </strong>(D-Wash.) and moderate leader <strong>JOSH GOTTHEIMER </strong>(D-N.J.) — all got worked out behind the scenes. Now, she lamented, it played out “on 24/7 platforms where there are opinions going out, characterizations going out before anybody even knew what was going on.”</p> <p><strong>Pelosi and Biden spoke at least four times on Friday</strong> as they engineered a deal to unstick the two bills and round up a majority to pass BIF, according to a source familiar with the negotiations.</p> <p><strong>A compromise began to come together:</strong></p> <p><strong>— Moderates would <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahnferris/status/1456808013399003149/photo/1" target="_blank">issue a statement</a> </strong>agreeing to vote for BBB later this month and after they had “fiscal information” from the Congressional Budget Office.</p> <p><strong>— Pelosi relayed the emerging deal to Biden.</strong></p> <p><strong>— The White House <a href="https://www.speaker.gov/sites/speaker.house.gov/files/WhiteHouse_BBB_PreliminaryBudget.pdf" target="_blank">provided</a></strong><a href="https://www.speaker.gov/sites/speaker.house.gov/files/WhiteHouse_BBB_PreliminaryBudget.pdf" target="_blank"> a detailed cost estimate</a> to convince moderates that the plan was fiscally sound and Biden personally called the key House moderates to nail things down.</p> <p><strong>— Pelosi urged the president</strong> to talk to Jayapal and her remaining holdouts in the Congressional Progressive Caucus and make a public statement backing it up.</p> <p><strong>Biden phoned into a tense CPC meeting </strong>with some 50 of its members and, via speakerphone, pleaded with them to endorse the deal. Harris, according to a senior White House official, called progressives and assured them that the agreement — despite the decoupling of the two bills — would clear the way for BBB.</p> <p><strong>At 9 p.m., Biden put out the kind of clear statement</strong> that he had declined to issue the last two times the House considered the infrastructure bill: “I am urging all members to vote for both the rule for consideration of the Build Back Better Act and final passage of the Bipartisan Infrastructure bill tonight. I am confident that during the week of November 15, the House will pass the Build Back Better Act.”</p> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/nicholaswu12/status/1456812205375213569" target="_blank"><strong>Jayapal announced she would back the deal</strong></a>. Progressives had finally given in. “Jayapal couldn’t sustain their obstruction with clear pressure from POTUS and Pelosi,” said one Democratic congressional source with knowledge of the pressure campaign.</p> <p><strong>Shortly after, <a href="https://twitter.com/nicholaswu12/status/1456818904056086532" target="_blank">she was joined at a presser</a></strong> by Gottheimer. White House chief of staff <strong>RON KLAIN</strong> approvingly tweeted out a photo of the two, <a href="https://twitter.com/WHCOS/status/1456820340882018307" target="_blank">writing simply</a>: “Democrats in array.”</p> <p><strong>Not quite.</strong></p> <p><u><strong>In a final twist, six Democrats</strong> — all “Squad” members — defied Pelosi and Biden, and refused to vote yes:<strong> JAMAAL BOWMAN</strong> (D-N.Y.), <strong>CORI BUSH </strong>(D-Mo.), <strong>ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ</strong> (D-N.Y.), <strong>ILHAN OMAR</strong> (D-Minn.), <strong>AYANNA PRESSLEY</strong> (D-Mass.) and <strong>RASHIDA TLAIB</strong> (D-Mich.). (Said AOC, <a href="https://twitter.com/ryangrim" target="_blank">via Intercept’s Ryan Grim</a>: “I’m a no. This is bullshit.”)</u></p> <p><u><strong>All eyes turned to moderate Republicans,</strong> who had been warned by their leadership not to provide the margin of victory for BIF. The far left had bucked Pelosi, and now she and Biden needed a handful of Republicans to buck House Minority Leader <strong>KEVIN MCCARTHY</strong> (R-Calif.).</u></p> <p><u><strong>In the end, these 13 Republicans, </strong>pressured from the outside by the building trades unions,<strong> </strong>came forward to rescue BIF and give Biden the biggest win of his presidency:</u> <strong>DON BACON</strong> (R-Neb.), <strong>BRIAN FITZPATRICK</strong> (R-Penn.), <strong>ANDREW GARBARINO</strong> (R-N.Y.), <strong>ANTHONY GONZALEZ </strong>(R-Ohio), <strong>JOHN KATKO</strong> (R-N.Y.), <strong>ADAM KINZINGER</strong> (R-Ill.), <strong>NICOLE MALLIOTAKIS</strong> (R-N.Y.), <strong>DAVID MCKINLEY</strong> (R-W.Va.), <strong>TOM REED</strong> (R-N.Y.), <strong>CHRIS SMITH</strong> (R-N.J.), <strong>FRED UPTON</strong> (R-Mich.), <strong>JEFF VAN DREW</strong> (R-N.J.) and <strong>DON YOUNG</strong> (R-Alaska).</p> <p><strong>Shortly before 11:30 p.m.</strong>, the House passed the infrastructure bill, 228-206.</p> <p><strong>The rebellion by the Squad turned into a political blessing.</strong> Democrats relished the show of bipartisan support. “Obviously, [a] huge blow for McCarthy to have that many vote with us,” said the Democratic congressional source.</p> <p><strong>Though the events of Friday were best summarized</strong> by Rep. <strong>MARK POCAN</strong> (D-Wis.): “The whole day was a clusterf---, right?”</p> <p><strong>Or, as first granddaughter NAOMI BIDEN</strong> <a href="https://twitter.com/NaomiBiden/status/1456825484214521858" target="_blank">tweeted Friday night</a> after it passed: “I’ll say it: this is a Big F---ing Deal.” [....]</p> </blockquote> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Sat, 06 Nov 2021 18:23:49 +0000 artappraiser comment 311423 at http://dagblog.com ^note NYT above:...The House http://dagblog.com/comment/311413#comment-311413 <a id="comment-311413"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/311412#comment-311412">BBC, NYTimes etc.</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>^note NYT above:...<em>The House put an even larger social safety net and climate change bill back on hold <u>amid Democratic infighting...</u></em></p> <p>no doubt there's more detail on that at sources like Politico, WaPo, The Hill, etc.</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 06 Nov 2021 07:05:07 +0000 artappraiser comment 311413 at http://dagblog.com BBC, NYTimes etc. http://dagblog.com/comment/311412#comment-311412 <a id="comment-311412"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/democrats-clear-procedural-hurdle-bidens-175-trillion-social-spending-bill-34763"> Democrats clear procedural hurdle for Biden&#039;s $1.75 trillion social spending bill</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>BBC, NYTimes etc.</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">US Congress passes $1tn infrastructure bill, delivering a major domestic victory for President Joe Biden <a href="https://t.co/uhCVVVnHRp">https://t.co/uhCVVVnHRp</a></p> — BBC Breaking News (@BBCBreaking) <a href="https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1456830879146328065?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">The infrastructure bill is the largest single investment of federal resources into infrastructure projects in more than a decade. The House put an even larger social safety net and climate change bill back on hold amid Democratic infighting. <a href="https://t.co/l2rS7NvOOK">https://t.co/l2rS7NvOOK</a> <a href="https://t.co/vnTbjqS6x4">pic.twitter.com/vnTbjqS6x4</a></p> — The New York Times (@nytimes) <a href="https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1456830408688013313?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Now on <a href="https://twitter.com/MSNBC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MSNBC</a>:<br /><br /> House votes to pass the $555B infrastructure bill, sending the legislation to President Biden who is expected to sign the measure. <a href="https://t.co/VcB484k1fR">https://t.co/VcB484k1fR</a> <a href="https://t.co/AoqD4NkkS9">pic.twitter.com/AoqD4NkkS9</a></p> — MSNBC (@MSNBC) <a href="https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1456835763493122049?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Long week comes to an end after the overseas trip and tonight's passage of the bipartisan infrastructure bill. Midnight and time to go home. <a href="https://t.co/khWtv4vUfA">pic.twitter.com/khWtv4vUfA</a></p> — Kelly O'Donnell (@KellyO) <a href="https://twitter.com/KellyO/status/1456834722303299591?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">The White House called a lid at 11:46 p.m. There won’t any live remarks from President Biden tonight on the bipartisan infrastructure bill passing.<br /><br /> A White House source tells me there will likely be a bill signing tomorrow.</p> — Yamiche Alcindor (@Yamiche) <a href="https://twitter.com/Yamiche/status/1456831875717160960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Sat, 06 Nov 2021 07:00:51 +0000 artappraiser comment 311412 at http://dagblog.com