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Detroit highway/black section

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 11 Nov 2021 23:04:24 +0000

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Detroit highway/black section

Here is a before and after of Detroit's Black Bottom and I-375. pic.twitter.com/GaokAq2rxX
— Thomas Sugrue (@TomSugrue) November 10, 2021

Except Pacific Islanders are

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 12:02:15 +0000

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Except Pacific Islanders are exotic & natural, not scary.

I see this "lapsed historian"

artappraiser — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 07:13:28 +0000

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I see this "lapsed historian" with PHD in American history & Polk Award-winning journalist that we all know would like to recommend this article as regards Sec. Pete's spin:

The truth? It’s a little more complex https://t.co/CDwXvCM7g3 via @citylab
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) November 10, 2021

nice point

artappraiser — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 03:37:29 +0000

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nice point

Shontel Brown, making her voters proud the day after swearing in
— Nonofyur Darnbusines (@ladyasrai) November 6, 2021

and is true

Occurs to me this guy is in

artappraiser — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 03:15:21 +0000

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Occurs to me this guy is in the new "wrong side of the tracks" type neighborhood of the near future

Tuvalu's foreign minister has given a speech to the United Nations climate conference in Glasgow (#COP26) standing knee-deep in seawater to show how his low-lying Pacific island nation is on the front line of climate change https://t.co/tpypOvaVOp 1/5 pic.twitter.com/Eha8rLzv0L
— Reuters Science News (@ReutersScience) November 9, 2021

I differentiate between

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 09 Nov 2021 23:43:02 +0000

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I differentiate between evaluating realities and how you market your way through. I imagine I'd avoid any statement about race altogether if possible. And gender issues etc.

yet see my edit to my comment

artappraiser — Tue, 09 Nov 2021 22:31:34 +0000

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yet see my edit to my comment, I added

It's very akin to what's happening now when suburban blacks denigrate something as "so ghetto".

We're in transition on that front basically. This is precisely why the Infrastructure bill was so important in this point in our history. And Pete is thinking right about this, he's just voicing it wrong. It works better to keep race out if, that is just a distraction from the main point of segregation of the poor. Bernie knows this for sure! He was more successful selling his policies when he avoided race baiting. An even better example is Jesse Jackson, as exhibited by his primary race for president when he won lots of Reagan Dem support in Michigan and everyone was shocked. It was because he didn't make it racial, he made it about class.

p.s. there's a much more

artappraiser — Tue, 09 Nov 2021 22:23:50 +0000

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p.s. there's a much more local and finer distinction along the lines of "the other side of the tracks" in Evan S. Connell's famous novel Mrs. Bridge which struck me real hard reading it in a college lit class and I never forgot it. The novel addresses the alienation of uptight segregated-by-class life of the suburban country club set in mid-century Kansas City. There's a couple pages or so where Mrs. Bridge's set takes to denigrating anything doing with "across the tracks" culture as "so Tobacco Road". They are referring to Erskine Caldwell's Tobacco Road as popularized in a Broadway show, they are basically referring to what we today label "white trash". They don't know any white trash, they don't know from those people except that they have bad taste, bad manners and bad habits in life, and that is why they are where they are, across the tracks. Race isn't even a consideration, they don't even think of it because that's part of the class system and it doesn't involve them.

It's very akin to what's happening now when surburban blacks denigrate something as "so ghetto".

(They don't even think of things like sex either, there's also a great scene of Mrs. Bridge getting existential pain from seeing evidence of some other tribes being into it in a lingerie shop window in Paris when Mr. and Mrs. Bridge do their ugly American once-in-a-lifetime "grand tour". Paris is definitely "the other side of the tracks", after all, you had to take a boat to get there.)

Well, I've had my mom turn

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 09 Nov 2021 22:23:00 +0000

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Well, I've had my mom turn the car around at those tracks (not that long ago) and while you can describe it as "poor" it's also the black side of town. They frequently go together. Of course more and more there are yuppie blacks, but I'm pretty sure from her dirt poor Depression-era roots she still never thought that *she* was from the wrong side of the tracks. I also know when I'm heading into the Spanish part of town. Let's not deceive ourselves too much.

Their vote will make no

NCD — Tue, 09 Nov 2021 22:14:08 +0000

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Their vote will make no difference in their districts. Probably. Gerrymandering.

Same with the 200 Republican 'No's'. Both can still claim credit for whatever good the Bill does, as if they were supporters and responsible for it.

70% of 'Murican voters have the political attention span of a gnat.

Huge majority will believe almost any alternate fact/assertion/lie related to politics, which now includes everything .... everywhere.