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PP - on META, re: not sure

artappraiser — Mon, 03 Jan 2022 23:22:35 +0000

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PP - on META, re: not sure how I cut off the original tweet to leave the followup

In case you ever want to do it:

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on CONTENT, I saw that and skimmed the article, but now that you recommend it, I'll give it a second look!

An interesting response (not

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 01 Jan 2022 09:08:38 +0000

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An interesting response (not sure how I cut off the original tweet to leave the followup)

Some of which mvmts can be directly linked to US right wing consultants, as in Hungary - hell of a read abt “bounded rationalities”: https://t.co/c4w9n6IM59
— Kelly Grotke (@kgrotke2) December 31, 2021

p.s. none are so blind as

artappraiser — Sat, 01 Jan 2022 06:09:26 +0000

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p.s. none are so blind as those that can't see that they are in the grip of a faddish narrative temporarily popular among global academic elites:

People actually got mad at you for that? Jeez. Touchy.
— A.Z. Foreman: Serious Philology, Silly Behavior (@azforeman) December 31, 2021

yes they distorted it into me saying class was more important race, obviously a quite different statement from what I said, called me a racist, then recited their credentials and coursework.
— Sam Haselby (@samhaselby) December 31, 2021

I think the anger was over the use of global history as a way to say class outweighs race. In US, class dynamics need race to work effectively. That point is on repeat in the American South, as well as other colonized parts of the world. We do pay attention to global history
— Doug Thompson (@DrDougThompson) December 31, 2021

Except I didn't say that. I said if American historians knew more about the histories of other countries we'd hear less about white supremacy and more about class. Lots of people distorted, or misread, as you did above, but those are not the same things at all.
— Sam Haselby (@samhaselby) December 31, 2021

Fair, maybe, but the use of white supremacy as code for too much talk about race is part of the problem. The original post appears to make that connection, even if that was not your intention.
— Doug Thompson (@DrDougThompson) December 31, 2021

Class dynamics work extremely effectively for the capitalist class in the U.S. - mainly by suppressing class awareness in the class with opposing material interests. Hence, resistance to the devastation being wrought by them devolves into baroque cliques of "cause" & "identity."
— (@LTrotsky21) December 31, 2021

@henryolsenEPPC wrote a good column about this the other day.
— SamuelGoldman (@SWGoldman) December 31, 2021

I am not suggesting all 18

artappraiser — Sat, 01 Jan 2022 06:00:16 +0000

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I am not suggesting all 18 should have said something about the global pattern some have specializations that are what they are but it's striking NO ONE mentions France, the UK, India, Turkey, Brazil, etc., But David Blight quotes Scripture.
— Sam Haselby (@samhaselby) December 31, 2021

Not one historians mentions class, except Mazower's reference to "youthful political class" another to classrooms. No one mentions billionaires. Were there any developments in 2021 relating to the economy, wealth, and class? We need a head in sand emoji for the Politico class.
— Sam Haselby (@samhaselby) December 31, 2021