dagblog - Comments for "Live Updates: Russia Plays Down Threat to Ukraine After Meetings with U.S." http://dagblog.com/link/live-updates-russia-plays-down-threat-ukraine-after-meetings-us-35009 Comments for "Live Updates: Russia Plays Down Threat to Ukraine After Meetings with U.S." en Here are just some http://dagblog.com/comment/313106#comment-313106 <a id="comment-313106"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/live-updates-russia-plays-down-threat-ukraine-after-meetings-us-35009">Live Updates: Russia Plays Down Threat to Ukraine After Meetings with U.S.</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Here are just some international and bilateral agreements Russia violated when it invaded Ukraine in 2014. Accusing the West of violating an agreement on the NATO expansion - that was never made - is pure gaslighting and an outright lie <a href="https://t.co/JbYttBe0xQ">https://t.co/JbYttBe0xQ</a> <a href="https://t.co/WRE8s5ujPt">pic.twitter.com/WRE8s5ujPt</a></p> — Olga Tokariuk (@olgatokariuk) <a href="https://twitter.com/olgatokariuk/status/1480451642361270275?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Mon, 10 Jan 2022 19:14:35 +0000 artappraiser comment 313106 at http://dagblog.com Note especially  http://dagblog.com/comment/313105#comment-313105 <a id="comment-313105"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/live-updates-russia-plays-down-threat-ukraine-after-meetings-us-35009">Live Updates: Russia Plays Down Threat to Ukraine After Meetings with U.S.</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Note especially <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/01/10/world/russia-us-ukraine-talks#for-the-us-even-slow-moving-talks-with-russia-are-better-than-an-invasion">For the U.S., even slow-moving talks with Russia are better than an invasion.</a></p> <p>So much for the U.S. evil empire narrative pushed by Grayzone-type outlets.</p> <p>BTW, speaking of Grayzone in particular, I just checked out the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone">wikipedia entry on it </a>and it says this, unchallenged by editors, in the first paragraph: <em>The website's news content is generally considered to be <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fringe_theory" title="Fringe theory">fringe</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone#cite_note-:0-2">[2]</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone#cite_note-:8-14">[14]</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone#cite_note-:3-15">[15]</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone#cite_note-:11-16">[16]</a> and it is known for its sympathetic coverage of <u>authoritarian regimes</u><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone#cite_note-:0-2">[2]</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone#cite_note-:1-10">[10]</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone#cite_note-17">[17]</a> and its denial of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide" title="Uyghur genocide">Uyghur genocide</a>.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone#cite_note-21">[21]</a></em></p> <p>More on that further down in the entry; my emphasis</p> <blockquote> <p>Reception[<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Grayzone&amp;action=edit&amp;section=4" title="Edit section: Reception">edit</a>]</p> <p><em>The Grayzone</em> has been criticized "for its coverage of authoritarian regimes".<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone#cite_note-:0-2">[2]</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone#cite_note-:2-9">[9]</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone#cite_note-:5-22">[22]</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Bawer" title="Bruce Bawer">Bruce Bawer</a>, writing in <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commentary_(magazine)" title="Commentary (magazine)">Commentary</a>,</em> described <em>The Grayzone</em> as "a one-stop propaganda shop, devoted largely to pushing a pro-Assad line on Syria, a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicol%C3%A1s_Maduro" title="Nicolás Maduro">pro-regime</a> line on <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuela" title="Venezuela">Venezuela</a>, a pro-<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin" title="Vladimir Putin">Putin</a> line on <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia" title="Russia">Russia</a>, and a pro-<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas" title="Hamas">Hamas</a> line on <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict" title="Israeli–Palestinian conflict">Israel and Palestine</a>".<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone#cite_note-:5-22">[22]</a> Nerma Jelacic, writing in the <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_on_Censorship" title="Index on Censorship">Index on Censorship</a></em>, described <em>The Grayzone</em> as "a Kremlin-connected online outlet that pushes pro-Russian conspiracy theories and genocide denial."<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone#cite_note-:12-27">[27]</a> <em>The Grayzone</em> had previously claimed Jelacic's employer collaborated with <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State" title="Islamic State">ISIS</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Nusra_Front" title="Al-Nusra Front">Jabhat al-Nusra</a> affiliates.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone#cite_note-:12-27">[27]</a> Socialist academic <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_Achcar" title="Gilbert Achcar">Gilbert Achcar</a> asserts that <em>The Grayzone</em> is an example of "pro-Putin, pro-Assad <span style="font-size:18px">'left-wing' propaganda combined with gutter journalism."<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone#cite_note-28">[28]</a></span></p> <p>It has also been sharply criticized for its characterizations of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_internment_camps" title="Xinjiang internment camps">Xinjiang internment camps</a> and other Chinese state abuses against Uyghurs.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone#cite_note-:0-2">[2]</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone#cite_note-:2-9">[9]</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone#cite_note-:9-29">[29]</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bloodworth_(journalist)" title="James Bloodworth (journalist)">James Bloodworth</a>, writing in the <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Statesman" title="New Statesman">New Statesman</a></em>, commented: "[i]n an echo of the way dictatorships publish the flattery of credulous foreign dupes in their state newspapers, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokespeople have approvingly tweeted articles from Blumenthal's online magazine <em>The Grayzone</em> which have sought to deny the persecution of China's Uighur population."<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone#cite_note-:9-29">[29]</a></p> <p><span style="font-size:18px">In March 2020, the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Wikipedia" title="English Wikipedia">English Wikipedia</a> formally <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deprecated_sources" title="Wikipedia:Deprecated sources">deprecated</a> the use of <em>The Grayzone</em> as a source for facts in its articles, citing issues with the website's factual reliability.</span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone#cite_note-:0-2"><span style="font-size:18px">[</span>2]</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone#cite_note-:17-11">[11]</a></p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Mon, 10 Jan 2022 19:06:38 +0000 artappraiser comment 313105 at http://dagblog.com