dagblog - Comments for "‘A tactical mistake’: Inside the Democrats’ year of failed attempts to mend a fraying democracy" http://dagblog.com/link/tactical-mistake-inside-democrats-year-failed-attempts-mend-fraying-democracy-35023 Comments for "‘A tactical mistake’: Inside the Democrats’ year of failed attempts to mend a fraying democracy" en As for water... sure, they've http://dagblog.com/comment/313323#comment-313323 <a id="comment-313323"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/313296#comment-313296">Democrats, please listen to</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>As for water... sure, they've got water shortages in Chad (and Beijing), but...</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Whew! Sen ⁦<a href="https://twitter.com/TammyDuckworth?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TammyDuckworth</a>⁩ just said: l can’t believe Senators in this room are having pages bring them water at just the right temperature - with ice or not - but won’t vote to protect against a law that keeps ppl from receiving water on a voting line. <a href="https://t.co/EEcLWp1GNI">pic.twitter.com/EEcLWp1GNI</a></p> — Sherrilyn Ifill (@Sifill_LDF) <a href="https://twitter.com/Sifill_LDF/status/1483938406052810755?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 19, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p>Nevertheless, 3-4 hour lines for students and minorities in suspected Democratic precincts are the big deal, along with slashing Democrats from voter rolls badly, not that they might need water. But no discomfort too big for the Republicans to discourage the other side from voting.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 20 Jan 2022 07:35:00 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 313323 at http://dagblog.com I don't buy it. Combine 4 http://dagblog.com/comment/313301#comment-313301 <a id="comment-313301"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/313296#comment-313296">Democrats, please listen to</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I don't buy it. Combine 4 hour waiting lines in minority &amp; student districts and minority voters &amp; students dropped off the rolls and vigilante poll watchers intimidating voters, and some high profile prosecutions for mistaken voting, etc, i do think it makes enough difference to sway elections. I don't think Štace Abrams was wrong for thinking Kemp as secretary-of-state dropped enough voters to make himself governor. Their strategy has long been "a few here, a few there, and it adds up". And then there are mischievous election machines (not Dominion, curiously enough) that are never quite examined properly, don't have regular audits, many don't have a paper trail, and there have been enough cases where they "mistakenly" get hooked to the internet - see Jennifer Cohn. When Ivanka invests in a voting machine company you wonder. No, it's not the only game in town, but in a closely divided electorate vote suppression and mangling can have a disproportional effect. Did these guy average over *all* elections, or the more important close races?</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 19 Jan 2022 08:19:00 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 313301 at http://dagblog.com Democrats, please listen to http://dagblog.com/comment/313296#comment-313296 <a id="comment-313296"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/tactical-mistake-inside-democrats-year-failed-attempts-mend-fraying-democracy-35023">‘A tactical mistake’: Inside the Democrats’ year of failed attempts to mend a fraying democracy</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Democrats, please listen to Jeff Maurer and get a fucking grip, thank you <a href="https://t.co/aAA8Blp7bA">https://t.co/aAA8Blp7bA</a> <a href="https://t.co/TJZldiXlEl">pic.twitter.com/TJZldiXlEl</a></p> — Josh Barro (@jbarro) <a href="https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/1483239911025266688?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Oh right, also this. This part is also correct, you idiots. <a href="https://t.co/LFcYFD2Tz9">pic.twitter.com/LFcYFD2Tz9</a></p> — Josh Barro (@jbarro) <a href="https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/1483241213788577802?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">I think tidying up the ECA is a good idea, but either way our primary defense against people screwing with the vote count is the courts, and we can’t really test how that works until we’re already in the crisis, though court performance in 2020 was promising.</p> — Josh Barro (@jbarro) <a href="https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/1483242000598147073?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">All of you are watching too much MSNBC. Turn it off, go outside.</p> — Josh Barro (@jbarro) <a href="https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/1483245578159116292?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">I agree that hearings are a much more productive messaging and awareness-raising approach than doomed legislative efforts <a href="https://t.co/nLARp6w6U1">https://t.co/nLARp6w6U1</a></p> — Josh Barro (@jbarro) <a href="https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/1483260139079716865?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Next to this in my TL, a much *savvier* piece <a href="https://t.co/k0dRTGhuBz">https://t.co/k0dRTGhuBz</a></p> — Anthropic Principal (@mattcushman) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattcushman/status/1483245190903119872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Wed, 19 Jan 2022 06:58:15 +0000 artappraiser comment 313296 at http://dagblog.com not blind yet, I do see http://dagblog.com/comment/313278#comment-313278 <a id="comment-313278"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/tactical-mistake-inside-democrats-year-failed-attempts-mend-fraying-democracy-35023">‘A tactical mistake’: Inside the Democrats’ year of failed attempts to mend a fraying democracy</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>not blind yet, I do see political messaging in this breaking news:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Sen. Elizabeth Warren on CBS: "All 50 Democrats, all 50, have agreed to the voting rights protection bill, we're just hung on this procedure that effectively gives Mitch McConnell a veto."</p> — Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) <a href="https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1483484331389685762?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Tue, 18 Jan 2022 18:44:13 +0000 artappraiser comment 313278 at http://dagblog.com p.s. Enrique is in Brooklyn, http://dagblog.com/comment/313189#comment-313189 <a id="comment-313189"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/313186#comment-313186">If nothing else, this is</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>p.s. Enrique is in Brooklyn, elite white lefty central, a bit cynical because he has to deal with their shtick all the time:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">All well and good until burglars swipe the autographed copy of White Fragility from the display case at the Berkeley Carroll School, at which point the local gentry will be demanding hard prison time. <a href="https://t.co/06gs3343TC">https://t.co/06gs3343TC</a></p> — Enrique in the BK (@enrique_pause) <a href="https://twitter.com/enrique_pause/status/1482188566226780170?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Sat, 15 Jan 2022 20:11:51 +0000 artappraiser comment 313189 at http://dagblog.com If nothing else, this is http://dagblog.com/comment/313186#comment-313186 <a id="comment-313186"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/tactical-mistake-inside-democrats-year-failed-attempts-mend-fraying-democracy-35023">‘A tactical mistake’: Inside the Democrats’ year of failed attempts to mend a fraying democracy</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>If nothing else, this is definitely part of the Trump mystique</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">The truest meme. <a href="https://t.co/NuSCHMQEZO">pic.twitter.com/NuSCHMQEZO</a></p> — Enrique in the BK (@enrique_pause) <a href="https://twitter.com/enrique_pause/status/1399458547725914113?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 31, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Sat, 15 Jan 2022 19:52:03 +0000 artappraiser comment 313186 at http://dagblog.com from another thread: http://dagblog.com/comment/313172#comment-313172 <a id="comment-313172"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/tactical-mistake-inside-democrats-year-failed-attempts-mend-fraying-democracy-35023">‘A tactical mistake’: Inside the Democrats’ year of failed attempts to mend a fraying democracy</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>from another thread:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">I guess social issues aren't important to 98% of people who are working class? <a href="https://t.co/bM5T7cxl5a">https://t.co/bM5T7cxl5a</a></p> — Chris Garlock (@cdgarlock) <a href="https://twitter.com/cdgarlock/status/1480676817379934212?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Working class voters tend to have conservative views on social issues (school prayer is reverse coded) and moderate to center-left views on economic issues, which is why Democratic politicians that talk more about economic issues do better with them. <a href="https://t.co/fqV3Lh8Tho">pic.twitter.com/fqV3Lh8Tho</a></p> — (((David Shor))) (@davidshor) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidshor/status/1480691254778384395?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 11, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Fri, 14 Jan 2022 23:58:23 +0000 artappraiser comment 313172 at http://dagblog.com Old Message Bill = stuff that http://dagblog.com/comment/313171#comment-313171 <a id="comment-313171"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/tactical-mistake-inside-democrats-year-failed-attempts-mend-fraying-democracy-35023">‘A tactical mistake’: Inside the Democrats’ year of failed attempts to mend a fraying democracy</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Old Message Bill = stuff that sounds good and is helpful for candidates in marginal seats to run on, even if it doesn't genuinely reflect party priorities<br /><br /> New Message Bill = promise everything to all the constituency groups even if it doesn't reflect a realistic vote count</p> — Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1482042265669447682?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">New voters are ideologically moderate and mostly share largely the same priorities as vote switchers. Democratic operatives convincing themselves otherwise has been a giant disaster that might destroy American democracy.</p> — (((David Shor))) (@davidshor) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidshor/status/1482132764363137026?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Fri, 14 Jan 2022 23:54:32 +0000 artappraiser comment 313171 at http://dagblog.com