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Louis DeJoy abusedthe US

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 23 Jan 2022 08:04:34 +0000

Louis DeJoy abusedthe US Postal Service just to influence mail-in ballots plus somehow own the libs by screwing up basic mail. Trump messed with the census in ways we don't even know to codify voting distortion. It's taken a year after Jan 6 and he left office to understand how complex and widespread the abuse was for his post-electiin machinations - so much that went on over 4 years is buried, and stuff the GOP does at state level is barely included.

So the accepted wisdom

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 23 Jan 2022 05:18:00 +0000

In reply to I think there is definitely

So the accepted wisdom according to Zaid is that Republican obstruction of voting is wholly ineffective. I don't buy it. Maybe it's not *completely* effective, but combined with other douche moves like overrunning longtime precedentem, it tilts the playing field. They're playing death by a thousand cuts, not 1 obstruction to rule them all. Look at the wide strategy that preceded Jan 6 - that wasn't a sudden Trump invention - it's an expansion of what's been going on behind the scenes for decades - these donors, these conservative institutes, the religious groups, etc. But seeing hours long voting lines in a developed country is both a psy-ops FU display and a real deterrent, even if not a game changer by itself. Even for voting, the sheer # of laws around the country gives an idea. People thought they couldn't change Roe v Wade, yet hear we are - not through revoking, but through tricky end-arounds and smashball.

Florida 2000 and the presidency was largely stolen via massive voting purge, combined with mob disruption tactics. Ohio 2094 voting machines seemed a game-changer where machine flaws and internet connectivity were never resolved - instead it continues to this day. The GA secretary of state running for governor seemed to help his chances against Stacey Abrams through excessive zeal in revoking voter registrations. Hans Von Spakovsky made the banner of supposed voter fraud a keystone in making voting more difficult decades ago..

I think there is definitely

artappraiser — Sun, 23 Jan 2022 01:56:34 +0000

In reply to Effort to overhaul archaic election law wins new momentum

I think there is definitely something to this, especially Sirota's point:

The thing the Democrats are shy to admit is that the voting bill they're promoting won't achieve very much because the voting bills the Republicans are passing won't achieve very much. Both sides don't want to admit that to their activists. https://t.co/h30kH45g7L
— Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) January 23, 2022

On the other hand, activist types vote in mid-terms and local elections, and other people don't.

Bipartisan group has been

artappraiser — Fri, 21 Jan 2022 16:53:10 +0000

In reply to Effort to overhaul archaic election law wins new momentum

Bipartisan group has been talking but in early stages.
Meeting by Zoom next week to compare lists about what they want/don't want in a bill

Also questions about how it meshes with a separate effort by Klobuchar/Durbin/King

Durbin told me open to suggestions from Collins group
— Jordain Carney (@jordainc) January 21, 2022