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Kruscheva still wrong a week

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 01 Mar 2022 09:06:00 +0000

Kruscheva still wrong a week later (as is Amy Goodman)
Khrushchev’s granddaughter ‘embarrassed’ by Putin invasion and says Soviet leader would find attack ‘despicable’ | The Independent

Amy talking to Jan Egeland - "nobody thought that the world would be so senseless that there would be an attack of this size, an invasion" [Narrator: uh, correction, yes, many many did.] Note she doesn't use the P word or R word. In another interview she is much more overt, but the concolusion of that weasly discussion (& she never quite gives her own sense of things *except* to lead it to this obviously fucked up conclusion:

ANATOL LIEVEN: Well, I mean, you know, since 2008, America and Britain have pressed for NATO membership for Ukraine, and NATO, as a whole, has said that the door is open to Ukraine to join in the future. That, after all, was the principal Russian demand at the start of this crisis. [inaudible]

AMY GOODMAN: Let me ask you a quick final question, because I know you have to go, Anatol. Putin said, “No one should have any doubts that a direct attack on our country will lead to the destruction and horrible consequences for any potential aggressor,” the largest nuclear arsenal in the world. What do you think he’s saying?

ANATOL LIEVEN: Well, he’s saying just that, that if NATO goes to war with Russia, Russia is prepared to use nuclear weapons. That is why NATO is not going to go to war with Russia. But we should have thought of that before.

Narrator: no, America and Britain really didn't "press for NATO membership for Ukraine".
"Say good night, Dick." "Good night, you dick."

#Чорнобильську_АЕС =

artappraiser — Thu, 24 Feb 2022 15:36:20 +0000

In reply to Kimberly just retweeted this

#Чорнобильську_АЕС = Chernobyl https://t.co/AwuSt1DHvn
— BlaqkPhoenix777 (@BlaqkPhoenix777) February 24, 2022

Kimberly just retweeted this

artappraiser — Thu, 24 Feb 2022 15:32:31 +0000

In reply to Hello new followers. I'm a

Kimberly just retweeted this tweet by Zelinksy in Ukrainian:

which Twitter translates as

Russian occupation forces are trying to capture #Чорнобильську_АЕС . Our defenders are giving their lives so that the tragedy of 1986 does not happen again.

Reported this @SwedishPM. This is a declaration of war on the whole of Europe.

9:56 AM · Feb 24, 2022

“These are totally defensive

artappraiser — Thu, 24 Feb 2022 15:21:14 +0000

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“These are totally defensive moves on our part,” Biden stated.

“We have no intention of fighting Russia. We want to send an unmistakable message that the United States together with our allies will defend every inch of NATO territory”
— TIME (@TIME) February 23, 2022

For those of us who have

artappraiser — Thu, 24 Feb 2022 13:43:42 +0000

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For those of us who have

artappraiser — Thu, 24 Feb 2022 13:43:04 +0000

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For those of us who have

artappraiser — Thu, 24 Feb 2022 13:41:49 +0000

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For those of us who have followed and researched Syria the past decade-plus, what is happening in Ukraine is sadly unsurprising. Those that ignored the reality of the broader implications of Syria now get it. Terrible that Syria had to be sacrificed for the West to now get it.
— Aaron Y. Zelin (@azelin) February 24, 2022

holy shit, I presume ordinary

artappraiser — Thu, 24 Feb 2022 12:47:37 +0000

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holy shit, I presume ordinary rush hour traffic is not that bad:

LIVE: Ukrainians leave Kyiv after Russian forces begin a military operation in Ukraine https://t.co/IuUcMs1c2o
— Reuters (@Reuters) February 24, 2022

what Zelensky said to Russian

artappraiser — Thu, 24 Feb 2022 12:37:32 +0000

In reply to Watch The Moscow Times:

what Zelensky said to Russian citizens on TV, translated by the Moscow bureau chief for the NYTimes:

Zelensky addressing the Russian people in Russian now:
“Today I initiated a phone call with the president of the Russian Federation. The result was silence, though the silence should be in the Donbas. As a result I want to address all citizens of Russia…
— Anton Troianovski (@antontroian) February 23, 2022

"We are separated by more than 2000 km of mutual borders, along which 200,000 of your soldiers and 1,000 armored vehicles are standing. Your leadership has approved their step forward onto the territory of another country. This step could become the beginning of a big war…
— Anton Troianovski (@antontroian) February 23, 2022

"The cause could come up at any moment, any provocation, any spark, a spark that could burn everything down. You are told that this flame will liberate the people of Ukraine, but the Ukrainian people are free. …
— Anton Troianovski (@antontroian) February 23, 2022

“You are told we hate Russian culture. How can one hate a culture? … Neighbors always enrich each other culturally, however, that doesn’t make them a single whole, it doesn’t dissolve us into you. We are different, but that is not a reason to be enemies. …
— Anton Troianovski (@antontroian) February 23, 2022

"Listen to the voice of reason. The people of Ukraine want peace, the authorities in Ukraine want peace, they want it and are doing everything they can for it. … We don’t need war. …
— Anton Troianovski (@antontroian) February 23, 2022

"But if we are attacked, if someone attempts to take away our land, our freedom, our lives, the lives of our children, we will defend ourselves. We won’t attack, but defend ourselves. By attacking, you will see our faces, not our backs, but our faces.”
— Anton Troianovski (@antontroian) February 23, 2022

“War will remove guarantees from everyone. No one will have security guarantees any more. Who will suffer most of all from this? People. Who wants this the least? People. Who can not allow this to happen? People. There are these people among you, I’m sure of it. …
— Anton Troianovski (@antontroian) February 23, 2022

“I know this speech of mine won’t be shown on Russian TV, but the people of Russia need to see it. They need to know the truth. The truth is that this must be stopped before it is too late, and if the leadership of the Russia does not want to sit down at a table for peace with …
— Anton Troianovski (@antontroian) February 23, 2022

… us, then maybe it will sit down at a table with you. Do Russians want war? I would very much like to answer this question. But the answer depends only on you — the citizens of the Russian Federation.”
— Anton Troianovski (@antontroian) February 23, 2022

Some of NATO's eastern

artappraiser — Thu, 24 Feb 2022 12:23:49 +0000

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Some of NATO's eastern countries have trigged Article 4. Here's what that means https://t.co/aRfURN9agg
— CNNWynn (@WynnWs) February 24, 2022