dagblog - Comments for "Catching up " http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/catching-35211 Comments for "Catching up " en Mega super thread of analysis http://dagblog.com/comment/315397#comment-315397 <a id="comment-315397"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/catching-35211">Catching up </a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Mega super thread of analysis by international relations guy Kamil Galeev, Galina Starovoitova Fellow at The Wilson Center (with lots of photo illustrations yet),</p> <p>starts here, use the "read the full conversation on Twitter" link to get it all on one page</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">How Putin managed to derussify East Ukraine in just 8 years?<br /><br /> Discussion on the potential deescalation of the war in Ukraine with all security implications it has illustrates the difference between the goal- oriented and the system-oriented thinking <a href="https://t.co/P8A4e94c9f">pic.twitter.com/P8A4e94c9f</a></p> — Kamil Galeev (@kamilkazani) <a href="https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1504103672019513345?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 16, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Wed, 16 Mar 2022 22:30:07 +0000 artappraiser comment 315397 at http://dagblog.com   http://dagblog.com/comment/315374#comment-315374 <a id="comment-315374"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/catching-35211">Catching up </a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>#biolabsinUkraine</p> <p> </p> <div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>So we heard a lot about "<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BiolabsinUkraine?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BiolabsinUkraine</a>" and an alleged biological weapons program carried out in them funded by the US. A thread about which this is nuts and a look back in history. <a href="https://t.co/N8TdcLhcB2">pic.twitter.com/N8TdcLhcB2</a></p> — Marc-Michael Blum (@blumscientific) <a href="https://twitter.com/blumscientific/status/1503732336105603079?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2022</a></blockquote> </div> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Wed, 16 Mar 2022 14:08:11 +0000 EmmaZahn comment 315374 at http://dagblog.com Thanks for the links. I've http://dagblog.com/comment/315253#comment-315253 <a id="comment-315253"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/315188#comment-315188">you might especially like the</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Thanks for the links. I've added them to my reading list which is getting really, really long. Just so you know, if these are things you have already posted in other threads, they show up in my Feedly news feed so you can just @ me to them there if you want.</p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Mon, 14 Mar 2022 11:04:08 +0000 EmmaZahn comment 315253 at http://dagblog.com Tablet Magazine - No Quiet http://dagblog.com/comment/315214#comment-315214 <a id="comment-315214"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/catching-35211">Catching up </a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><a href="https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/no-quiet-place-left-on-earth">Tablet Magazine - No Quiet Place Left On Earth - March 10, 2022</a></p> <p>Excerpts:</p> <p>The fury of the Ukrainians has also hardened as it becomes clear that the West has categorically ruled out the no-fly zone for which President Volodymyr Zelensky has been pleading. The West has decided that the escalatory danger of direct confrontations between Russian and NATO planes in Ukrainian skies is simply too great. ...<br /><br /> ...As for Zelensky, his rhetoric has become noticeably more intense and much more bitter over the last week. In the opening days of the war, he had taken pains to appear positive and was very careful to speak of “the enemy” without personally attacking the Russians. He is now no longer pulling his punches or employing euphemisms. Zelensky has already twice accused the West of abandonment in the most furious register possible: “If you will not give us the aircraft that we need to be able to protect ourselves, there can be only one conclusion: You want us to be slowly killed. That is also the responsibility of the world’s politicians, and of Western leaders. Today and forever.”...<br /><br /> ...While Ukrainian air defenses have held up so far—mostly a testament to Russian military incompetence—the Russians have been able to dominate the air, and the Ukrainians have ceased flying what is left of their air force because those planes have often been knocked out of the sky. ...<br /><br /> ... Moscow now needs to take the Black Sea coastline in order to push the Ukrainian economy underwater, as well as the major roads and power stations that will leave Ukraine with no practical means of importing weapons or ammunition from the Europeans and Americans, and no light or heat in the middle of winter.</p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Sun, 13 Mar 2022 16:08:06 +0000 EmmaZahn comment 315214 at http://dagblog.com Not sure about the above http://dagblog.com/comment/315213#comment-315213 <a id="comment-315213"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/315212#comment-315212">Logistics Rule--look at the</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Not sure about the above analysis. To my admitted amateur eyes, it looks like a siege. If Russia controls sea and ground supply routes to eastern Ukraine and can enforce a no-fly zone over it, why hurry troops to the middle and west. </p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Sun, 13 Mar 2022 11:35:13 +0000 EmmaZahn comment 315213 at http://dagblog.com Logistics Rule--look at the http://dagblog.com/comment/315212#comment-315212 <a id="comment-315212"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/catching-35211">Catching up </a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p> <div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>Logistics Rule--look at the map. You might be wondering why the Russian invasion of Ukraine looks like a group of almost equidistant road-linked thrusts stretching from Russian and Belarus into Ukraine. (thanks to <a href="https://twitter.com/Nrg8000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Nrg8000</a> for this) <a href="https://t.co/VTLc0orqUb">pic.twitter.com/VTLc0orqUb</a></p> — Phillips P. OBrien (@PhillipsPOBrien) <a href="https://twitter.com/PhillipsPOBrien/status/1502732464980172802?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 12, 2022</a></blockquote> </div> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Sun, 13 Mar 2022 11:22:12 +0000 EmmaZahn comment 315212 at http://dagblog.com you might especially like the http://dagblog.com/comment/315188#comment-315188 <a id="comment-315188"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/315187#comment-315187">just read most of this new</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>you might especially like the first paragraph of this excerpt which refers to something you mentioned on another thread; I think it's spot on:</p> <blockquote> <p>[...] With Ukraine, we have the assumption that it could be a successful version of Afghanistan, and it wasn’t. It turned out that the Ukrainian people are brave; they are willing to resist and die for their country. Evidently, Putin didn’t believe that. But it turned out that “<u>the television President</u>,” <u>Zelensky</u>, who had a twenty-five-per-cent approval rating before the war—which was fully deserved, because he couldn’t govern—now it turns out that he has a ninety-one-per-cent approval rating. It turned out that he’s got <em>cojones</em>. He’s unbelievably brave. Moreover, having a TV-production company run a country is not a good idea in peacetime, but in wartime, when information war is one of your goals, it’s a fabulous thing to have in place.</p> <p>The biggest surprise for Putin, of course, was the West. All the nonsense about how the West is decadent, the West is over, the West is in decline, how it’s a multipolar world and the rise of China, et cetera: all of that turned out to be bunk. The courage of the Ukrainian people and the bravery and smarts of the Ukrainian government, and its President, Zelensky, galvanized the West to remember who it was. And that shocked Putin! That’s the miscalculation.</p> <p><strong><em>How do you define “the West”?</em></strong></p> <p>The West is a series of institutions and values. The West is not a geographical place. Russia is European, but not Western. Japan is Western, but not European. “Western” means rule of law, democracy, private property, open markets, respect for the individual, diversity, pluralism of opinion, and all the other freedoms that we enjoy, which we sometimes take for granted. We sometimes forget where they came from. But that’s what the West is. And that West, which we expanded in the nineties, in my view properly, through the expansion of the European Union and <em>nato</em>, is revived now, and it has stood up to Vladimir Putin in a way that neither he nor Xi Jinping expected.</p> <p>If you assumed that the West was just going to fold, because it was in decline and ran from Afghanistan; if you assumed that the Ukrainian people were not for real, were not a nation; if you assumed that Zelensky was just a TV actor, a comedian, a Russian-speaking Jew from Eastern Ukraine—if you assumed all of that, then maybe you thought you could take Kyiv in two days or four days. But those assumptions were wrong.</p> <p><strong><em>Let’s discuss the nature of the Russian regime</em> </strong> [....]</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Sat, 12 Mar 2022 20:54:47 +0000 artappraiser comment 315188 at http://dagblog.com just read most of this new http://dagblog.com/comment/315187#comment-315187 <a id="comment-315187"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/catching-35211">Catching up </a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>just read most of this new interview by David Remnick of historian of Russia &amp; Stalin biographer, Stephen Kotnick; highly recommend it (there's also a video, I didn't watch and an 18 min. voice recording, I didn't use)</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">"The Soviet Union did not invade Afghanistan. It did a coup in Afghanistan, sending special forces into the capital of Kabul. It murdered the Afghan leadership and installed a puppet, Babrak Karmal, who had been hiding in exile in Czechoslovakia." <a href="https://t.co/93H0LdEqrw">https://t.co/93H0LdEqrw</a></p> — Sam Haselby (@samhaselby) <a href="https://twitter.com/samhaselby/status/1502731517168173059?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 12, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p>going to continue reading it....</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 12 Mar 2022 19:51:55 +0000 artappraiser comment 315187 at http://dagblog.com while the tiny nutwing Qanon http://dagblog.com/comment/315182#comment-315182 <a id="comment-315182"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/315181#comment-315181">FUCKING AMAZING. No partisan</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>while the tiny nutwing Qanon party passionately soldiers on:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Russia's baseless claims about secret American biological warfare labs in Ukraine are taking root in the U.S. too, uniting COVID-19 conspiracy theorists, QAnon adherents and some supporters of ex-President Donald Trump. <a href="https://t.co/XrmslCYZIC">https://t.co/XrmslCYZIC</a></p> — ABC News (@ABC) <a href="https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1502632473389318145?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 12, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Sat, 12 Mar 2022 17:56:58 +0000 artappraiser comment 315182 at http://dagblog.com FUCKING AMAZING. No partisan http://dagblog.com/comment/315181#comment-315181 <a id="comment-315181"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/catching-35211">Catching up </a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>FUCKING AMAZING. No partisan gap. None.</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">There’s no partisan gap in views on Russia and Ukraine: <a href="https://t.co/0s38mSZzU6">https://t.co/0s38mSZzU6</a> <a href="https://t.co/K8QTXFcE7B">pic.twitter.com/K8QTXFcE7B</a></p> — Conor Sen (@conorsen) <a href="https://twitter.com/conorsen/status/1502664180406620164?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 12, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Sat, 12 Mar 2022 17:52:23 +0000 artappraiser comment 315181 at http://dagblog.com