dagblog - Comments for "Debate-dodging takes off in midterm campaigns" http://dagblog.com/link/debate-dodging-takes-midterm-campaigns-35246 Comments for "Debate-dodging takes off in midterm campaigns" en this is a perfect example, http://dagblog.com/comment/316153#comment-316153 <a id="comment-316153"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/316138#comment-316138">When Al Sharpton is sounding</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>this is a perfect example, today The Woke are attacking Tony Dungy for avidly participating in a DeSantis pro-fatherhood event! Do they have shit for brains? I imagine DeSantis just loves all the screeching, is exactly what he hoped they would do, another way for libruls to be labeled as anti-family, Democrats lose a few more votes. And for what? What do they gain? Did they want to promote families without fathers or what? There is not even anything to gain for LBGTQ activists here, they just end up looking intolerant of traditional families.</p> <div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>Governor Ron DeSantis signs legislation to provide $70 million to promote fatherhood at the Bucs indoor facility as Tony Dungy looks on. <a href="https://t.co/FShFxdqHcU">pic.twitter.com/FShFxdqHcU</a></p> — Rick Stroud (@NFLSTROUD) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLSTROUD/status/1513521987641135106?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 11, 2022</a></blockquote> </div> <p><br /></p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>The lunatic left trying to cancel Tony Dungy (a man of impeccable character) for telling the truth? Dungy literally said what any clear minded individual with common sense knows is true (a child raised with a father is less likely to get into trouble). Liberalism=Disease. <a href="https://t.co/WmRwMM7mji">https://t.co/WmRwMM7mji</a></p> — Perry's Perspective (@perryspeaks1) <a href="https://twitter.com/perryspeaks1/status/1513637608093413376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 11, 2022</a></blockquote> </div> <br /><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>Tony Dungy is an awesome man!! I know personally what a stand up individual he is, because he's from my hometown. He thru the years, has not only donated millions, but has also donated his time to help people and kids of all colors and backgrounds. The nutty left has no clue!! <a href="https://t.co/Iz0NBflFtb">https://t.co/Iz0NBflFtb</a></p> — KG (@gilson_kristi) <a href="https://twitter.com/gilson_kristi/status/1513615747381092359?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 11, 2022</a></blockquote> </div> <br /><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>How many men have served as a head coach in the NFL since 2000? Perhaps more than 100. Out of all of those men, Tony Dungy is probably the most respected. Yet, many are hating him today for appearing with Gov. DeSantis.</p> — Rich Bradford (@fsusma) <a href="https://twitter.com/fsusma/status/1513630183445651459?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 11, 2022</a></blockquote> </div> <br /><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>Nothing says “daddy issues” like getting mad that Tony Dungy supports a pro-dad initiative.<br /><br /> Rather than getting upset, talk to a counselor. That kind of bitterness will eat you up.</p> — The Durham Report (@TheDurhamReport) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheDurhamReport/status/1513616274412253190?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 11, 2022</a></blockquote> </div> <br /><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>I agree. Sucks it had to be with DeSantis, but I like Tony Dungy a lot. <a href="https://t.co/nNVnVNxKmL">https://t.co/nNVnVNxKmL</a></p> — ZuZu Bailey (@Justlove3332) <a href="https://twitter.com/Justlove3332/status/1513633776248758280?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 11, 2022</a></blockquote> </div> <br /><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>If you read the comments under a trending Tony Dungy and somehow come away thinking progressives are not a collective horde of imbecilic simpletons, you're just as simple-minded as they are. Those halfwits are truly insufferable.</p> — Grant (@InnocuousGrant) <a href="https://twitter.com/InnocuousGrant/status/1513633867143462915?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 11, 2022</a></blockquote> </div> <br /><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>Tony Dungy is a role model for me and millions of other Christian men.</p> — Miles Commodore (@miles_commodore) <a href="https://twitter.com/miles_commodore/status/1513563658617507842?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 11, 2022</a></blockquote> </div> <p>Oh boy. look who is ready and able to cancel Tony Dungy, as if his input would help:</p> <div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>Spoiler Alert: I worked with him. Tony Dungy's reputation is not spotless, and his Michael Sam comments disqualified him from being considered an example of loving fatherhood. <a href="https://t.co/WCjgSOPWn0">https://t.co/WCjgSOPWn0</a></p> — Keith Olbermann (@KeithOlbermann) <a href="https://twitter.com/KeithOlbermann/status/1513599123840196610?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 11, 2022</a></blockquote> </div> </div></div></div> Mon, 11 Apr 2022 22:54:40 +0000 artappraiser comment 316153 at http://dagblog.com When Al Sharpton is sounding http://dagblog.com/comment/316138#comment-316138 <a id="comment-316138"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/debate-dodging-takes-midterm-campaigns-35246">Debate-dodging takes off in midterm campaigns</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">When Al Sharpton is sounding the alarm that the “woke” is going too far to the left, that should tell you that you got a problem <a href="https://t.co/G7QMknsIHU">pic.twitter.com/G7QMknsIHU</a></p> — Darvio Morrow (@DTheKingpin) <a href="https://twitter.com/DTheKingpin/status/1513543553565274125?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 11, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Mon, 11 Apr 2022 17:05:28 +0000 artappraiser comment 316138 at http://dagblog.com nationwide, things are not http://dagblog.com/comment/316137#comment-316137 <a id="comment-316137"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/debate-dodging-takes-midterm-campaigns-35246">Debate-dodging takes off in midterm campaigns</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>nationwide, things are not looking good at this point for Democrats in the mid-terms; I've seen a lot of political types mentioning this poll analysis:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Men and particularly college educated men dumping the Democrats is naturally the headline.<br /><br /> But given that extreme volatility it’s equally remarkable how stable the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/s?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#s</a> are for women.<br /><br /> I would have expected steeper losses for Dems among non-college women <a href="https://t.co/TrnXDMTYO7">https://t.co/TrnXDMTYO7</a></p> — Alice (@AliceFromQueens) <a href="https://twitter.com/AliceFromQueens/status/1513324390771052550?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 11, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Mon, 11 Apr 2022 16:57:43 +0000 artappraiser comment 316137 at http://dagblog.com the other five guys showed up http://dagblog.com/comment/316136#comment-316136 <a id="comment-316136"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/debate-dodging-takes-midterm-campaigns-35246">Debate-dodging takes off in midterm campaigns</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>the other five guys showed up, so hardly a huge trend:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Herschel Walker’s no-show looms large over Senate GOP debate <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/gapol?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#gapol</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/gasen?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#gasen</a> <a href="https://t.co/ywwqVtRFX7">https://t.co/ywwqVtRFX7</a></p> — Greg Bluestein (@bluestein) <a href="https://twitter.com/bluestein/status/1513124635864350720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 10, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Mon, 11 Apr 2022 16:51:24 +0000 artappraiser comment 316136 at http://dagblog.com Color me a true believer as http://dagblog.com/comment/315871#comment-315871 <a id="comment-315871"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/315868#comment-315868">Sullivan&#039;s apparently a true</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Color me a true believer as well - William F. Buckley debating Gore Vidal or Noam Chomsky for all to see and draw their own conclusions. I liked earlier presidential debates before moderators decided to encourage food fights and horserace issues rather than policy &amp; national import, but still, that Trump-Hillary debate is an unvarnished glimpse of real differences that can't be erased, Sarah Palin stands out as a lunkhead on prime time, etc. [yes, debates favor the most charismatic, which isn't good for thoughtful organized but more wallflower personality types, but that's also part of the general playing field]. Campus debates of course were typically rowdy if touching on anything useful, but still, there was an expectation that both sides would talk, basic principles would be espoused before the shoutdown began. Sully's a bit unrealistic in expecting a fair food fight (has he not seen the papers in 10 years; has he not seen Jon Stewart in 10 years?), but yes, it would be nice if moderators could hold off a slight bit with their smugness and editorializing while participants present. Too many electric 3rd rails of wokeness or conservatism that can't be dug into a bit - remembering how the difference between $12 and $15 became sacrosanct, if you didn't go for the higher you were evil (7 years later it's still at $7.25/hr - really important issue to obsess over). I'm amazed that the far left thinks state-sponsored indoctrination of kids on sexual preferences or anything is actually important - aside from preventing bullying, aren't there academic topics they should be learning to be able to do those $7.25 jobs? We can't even manage vaccines for schoolage kids anymore, a big step backwards. [I'm still wondering what math taught in K-8 we think is so important to the 90% who won't use more than basic logic and multiply/divide (and calculators that will do everything else), vs. understanding concepts &amp; events of history, psychology, sociology, interpersonal/cultural communications, team building and project management, sales &amp; marketing, physical well-being - i.e. exercise, basics of health &amp; nutrition, simple biology and chemistry and physics, digital systems, design/aesthetics/art in society, and then argumentation/rhetoric/fake news vs. valid trains of thought, familiarity with valid references vs. unsupported assertions and random anecdotes... legal/civics/government including some basics of the Constitution and how citizens should participate, maybe some Wikipedia-like dashboards that everyone can go to keep a reality check on how fast things are changing in many ways, as well as gaps around the world so we have a bit of baseline.</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 03 Apr 2022 07:03:05 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 315871 at http://dagblog.com Sullivan's apparently a true http://dagblog.com/comment/315868#comment-315868 <a id="comment-315868"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/315861#comment-315861">But what is &quot;debate&quot;?</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Sullivan's apparently a true believer that it's a worthy thing (I seem to remember something about formal debate history, tho I might be confusing him with Hitchens)</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en"><a href="https://twitter.com/jonstewart?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@jonstewart</a> Below are my reflections on our recent encounter. I think we can both do better. So may I extend an open invitation to come on the Dishcast, where we can discuss this further with civility and grace?<a href="https://t.co/TywSNhdzwQ">https://t.co/TywSNhdzwQ</a></p> — Andrew Sullivan (@sullydish) <a href="https://twitter.com/sullydish/status/1510016252424638464?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Sun, 03 Apr 2022 06:14:02 +0000 artappraiser comment 315868 at http://dagblog.com But what is "debate"? http://dagblog.com/comment/315861#comment-315861 <a id="comment-315861"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/debate-dodging-takes-midterm-campaigns-35246">Debate-dodging takes off in midterm campaigns</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>But what is "debate"?</p> <p>And are we really sincere about having them?</p> <p>(Ok, yes, not everyone's the new uberwoke Jon Stewart or Tucker Carlson. And in the good ol days, real working people ignored much of the chitchat until 1-2 months before elections, quickly condensing the issues and using the debates to cut through the bullshit of extreme marketing.</p> <p>But perhaps no longer.</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="und" xml:lang="und"><a href="https://t.co/TywSNhdzwQ">https://t.co/TywSNhdzwQ</a></p> — Andrew Sullivan (@sullydish) <a href="https://twitter.com/sullydish/status/1509978295441448963?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Sat, 02 Apr 2022 07:30:00 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 315861 at http://dagblog.com Democratic messaging still http://dagblog.com/comment/315846#comment-315846 <a id="comment-315846"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/debate-dodging-takes-midterm-campaigns-35246">Debate-dodging takes off in midterm campaigns</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Democratic messaging still controlled by The Woke trying to rectify history and ignoring current problems and GOP will have the advantage if this continues:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">The Emmett till anti-lynching bill isn't going to do anything about the 340 murders in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Baltimore?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Baltimore</a>. Or the rising voiolent crime rate in every single Democrat City.</p> — Capitalism Cures (@hardunkichud_d) <a href="https://twitter.com/hardunkichud_d/status/1509867223929786372?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p>Sure it makes The Woke happy. That and two cents will get ya...Republican legislatures in nearly every state in the union if not a Republican-controlled U.S. Congress, which is also likely.</p> <p>I see so many Dems cluelessly touting this "accomplishment". Sheesh.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 01 Apr 2022 18:26:20 +0000 artappraiser comment 315846 at http://dagblog.com a not insubstantial portion http://dagblog.com/comment/315834#comment-315834 <a id="comment-315834"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/debate-dodging-takes-midterm-campaigns-35246">Debate-dodging takes off in midterm campaigns</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">a not insubstantial portion of American politics consists now of mobilizing anger with threats of imprisoning political opponents, none of whom will ever go to prison <a href="https://t.co/FDGUJgF7kw">https://t.co/FDGUJgF7kw</a></p> — Sam Haselby (@samhaselby) <a href="https://twitter.com/samhaselby/status/1508615901809106946?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Fri, 01 Apr 2022 03:43:22 +0000 artappraiser comment 315834 at http://dagblog.com Can nsuder the lack of a http://dagblog.com/comment/315821#comment-315821 <a id="comment-315821"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/315813#comment-315813">They want to &quot;message&quot;</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Can nsuder the lack of a traditional presidential transition - how Biden was largely locked out of usual resources until Jan 20, and the entire politico-media arena stayed focused on Trump and insurrection, giving way only to allow a bit on COVID deaths. So much for the "honeymoon". We are only 14 months into Biden's presidency and the effect of this luke-warm to negative beginning treatment is an anchor weight. For all practical purposes, "what is Trump doing?" has been the focus most of this time, as the Republicans can't escape his gravity </p> </div></div></div> Fri, 01 Apr 2022 00:13:05 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 315821 at http://dagblog.com