dagblog - Comments for "Organizing Beats Debating" http://dagblog.com/link/organizing-beats-debating-35353 Comments for "Organizing Beats Debating" en I think their current http://dagblog.com/comment/317692#comment-317692 <a id="comment-317692"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/317691#comment-317691">Just learned that my Czech</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I think their current president is largely an old Communist with Putin ties, yet the Czechs voted him in rather overwhelmingly (forgiving him his decrepit age as well). Somehow enough people have tolerance for whatever wing bullsh*t.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 06 Jun 2022 04:59:22 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 317692 at http://dagblog.com Just learned that my Czech http://dagblog.com/comment/317691#comment-317691 <a id="comment-317691"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/organizing-beats-debating-35353">Organizing Beats Debating</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Just learned that my Czech immigrant gay bartender in NYC -- who has always been strangely Republican -- I could never figure it out... turns out, of course, he grew up in Communism. Indeed, that's all it takes to have no tolerance to left-wing bullsh*t.</p> — Peter Moskos (@PeterMoskos) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeterMoskos/status/1533347514459508736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Mon, 06 Jun 2022 02:05:58 +0000 artappraiser comment 317691 at http://dagblog.com her team is clearly and http://dagblog.com/comment/317675#comment-317675 <a id="comment-317675"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/organizing-beats-debating-35353">Organizing Beats Debating</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>her team is clearly and interestingly playing the non-partisan policy Yglesias/Shor advice with this tweet, but don't know if its's going to work given that she has such a strong partisan image already:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Today, Chris Christie (who expanded Medicaid in New Jersey) is appearing with Brian Kemp, who deprives 500,000+ Georgians of Medicaid access and just vetoed access for Georgians living with HIV. Kemp doesn’t care, so Georgians suffer while our tax dollars flow to 38 other states. <a href="https://t.co/4ANWYqSxyd">pic.twitter.com/4ANWYqSxyd</a></p> — Stacey Abrams (@staceyabrams) <a href="https://twitter.com/staceyabrams/status/1526516154252070912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 17, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Sun, 05 Jun 2022 20:56:17 +0000 artappraiser comment 317675 at http://dagblog.com On Congressman Bobby Rush's http://dagblog.com/comment/317598#comment-317598 <a id="comment-317598"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/317582#comment-317582">Great point and looks to me</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>On Congressman Bobby Rush's black lives bullshit,<a href="https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1532128683447787520.html"> Twitter thread by "SWS Chicago, transferred to a single page with the Reader app, 4 hrs. ago:</a></p> <blockquote> <p>Two years ago, in the heat of summer, my coworkers and I were transported by bus to a part of the city that was in the final stages of being looted. We were dropped off with no access to water, food, or bathrooms. After clearing the area of looters, we sat for hours doing nothing </p> <p>We had no method of transportation to respond to calls. A bus is not an emergency vehicle, a bus driver is not outfitted with a ballistic vest. The only bus that remained with us served as a "cooling center" because it was extremely hot outside. </p> <p>So, we were stuck. After we cleared out the looters, we secured the strip mall, and then sat on our asses for over 10 hours, waiting to get wind of any redeployment plans. That never happened. We sat around until we were released, about 14 hours later. </p> <p>Some of my coworkers were able to make entry to a nearby business that had already been looted prior to our arrival. They were able to locate the pin code for the bathrooms. The city around us was burning, but everything was out of reach. At least we had bathrooms. </p> <p>With nothing else to do, no means to actually get anywhere and make ourselves useful, some of my coworkers sought refuge in the shade, on the bus, or inside of the business. Some napped. We were all exhausted. Days off were cancelled. Shifts were 12+ hours with no end in sight. </p> <p>It was later revealed that, elsewhere in the city, that same day, officers who were in the same predicament as us, decided to seek refuge in a nearby looted office space. (It has been repeated many times, but never publicly confirmed, that they were invited there.) </p> <p>That office belonged to Congressman Bobby Rush, who has been in political office since 1983. Longer than I've been living on this earth.<br /><br /> Like us, the officers presumably didn't have access to food for their 12+ hour shift, so they helped themselves to some popcorn for sustenance </p> <p>Not two weeks later, Chicago Police Superintendent David Brown (newly appointed at the time), Mayor Lightfoot, and Congressman Bobby Rush held a joint press conference in which they slammed the officers who sought refuge in Rush's office. </p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed" height="522px" width="698px"><iframe allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="522px" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/fijpYwIgy90" title="YouTube video player" width="698px"></iframe></div> <p>Never once was it mentioned that these officers were on a platoon-style deployment and did not have access to squad cars, bathrooms, water, or food during their 12+ shifts, which went on for another 10 or so days. It was in the upper 80s/low 90s. </p> <p>These officers and their supervisors were all punished, some taking so much time that they would lose their health insurance benefits. Congressman Bobby Rush so kindly declined to press charges on the officers. (<em>sarcasm smilie he put here was lost in the translation.)</em></p> </blockquote> <p> tweets added after the thread was transferred:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">The Superintendent never admitted any fault regarding how poorly planned the looting/riot response was. The OIG released a scathing report, but as usual, shit rolls down hill. Officers who did exactly what we did to escape the heat were vilified in the media.</p> — RDO Enthusiast (@SWSchicago) <a href="https://twitter.com/SWSchicago/status/1532135684336656389?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">One day before the now-infamous "Popcorngate" press conference, a Chicago Police Officer, Chinese immigrant, U.S. Navy veteran, and father named Xu Meng died of carbon monoxide poisoning after failing to turn off his car in his attached garage after his 12th 12-hour shift.</p> — RDO Enthusiast (@SWSchicago) <a href="https://twitter.com/SWSchicago/status/1532137542484692997?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">While this event made the evening news, neither the Mayor nor the Superintendent held any press conference regarding his death. After almost 2 weeks of non-stop 12+ hour shifts, the callous disregard for this fallen officer, followed up by a finger-pointing press conference [...]</p> — RDO Enthusiast (@SWSchicago) <a href="https://twitter.com/SWSchicago/status/1532138015367348231?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Regarding some snacked-on popcorn and "lazy," "cowardly" officers who were just trying to manage their stress and exhaustion while being unable to relocate to tame the rioting... really struck a chord with the rest of us. Especially those of us who knew Officer Meng.</p> — RDO Enthusiast (@SWSchicago) <a href="https://twitter.com/SWSchicago/status/1532138520499847168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Those were incredibly dark days. What I've covered only scratches the surface of the hypocrisy and mismanagement by city government and CPD brass.<br /><br /> But, someone asked me why 2 years ago was the worst month of my life. This is just a piece of the reason why.</p> — RDO Enthusiast (@SWSchicago) <a href="https://twitter.com/SWSchicago/status/1532138857604562944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">I'll throw in one more thing, just so this isn't too depressing. A few weeks after the riots, late June 2020, a little girl walked up to me &amp; my partner while we were eating lunch on a patio. She slipped us this note. It's still saved in a folder on my phone called "good things." <a href="https://t.co/PVKKgYqxxS">pic.twitter.com/PVKKgYqxxS</a></p> — RDO Enthusiast (@SWSchicago) <a href="https://twitter.com/SWSchicago/status/1532155170167083008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 2, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">After everything I had gone through that month--that we had all collectively gone through--this girl will never know how much that note, that small gesture, meant to me. I have a few similar pictures in that folder, for whenever I have doubts regarding why I'm still in this field</p> — RDO Enthusiast (@SWSchicago) <a href="https://twitter.com/SWSchicago/status/1532155584677543937?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 2, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Thu, 02 Jun 2022 03:06:05 +0000 artappraiser comment 317598 at http://dagblog.com We'd heard about these RNC http://dagblog.com/comment/317589#comment-317589 <a id="comment-317589"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/organizing-beats-debating-35353">Organizing Beats Debating</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">We'd heard about these RNC Community Centers popping up in nonwhite areas across the country. So we sent <a href="https://twitter.com/alex_sammon?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@alex_sammon</a> to a couple to check them out. He essentially got tossed out, but he brought back enough information for this great report:<a href="https://t.co/lda4Ms2F5W">https://t.co/lda4Ms2F5W</a></p> — David Dayen (@ddayen) <a href="https://twitter.com/ddayen/status/1531989437474779137?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Wed, 01 Jun 2022 21:34:12 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 317589 at http://dagblog.com It was this and many did not http://dagblog.com/comment/317583#comment-317583 <a id="comment-317583"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/317582#comment-317582">Great point and looks to me</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>It was this and many did not want to partake of the ritual &gt;</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Black Lives Matter's donors got what they paid for, says <a href="https://twitter.com/bungarsargon?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@bungarsargon</a> <a href="https://t.co/cC0L6eU9sV">https://t.co/cC0L6eU9sV</a></p> — spiked (@spikedonline) <a href="https://twitter.com/spikedonline/status/1528541348692901889?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Wed, 01 Jun 2022 17:52:08 +0000 artappraiser comment 317583 at http://dagblog.com Great point and looks to me http://dagblog.com/comment/317582#comment-317582 <a id="comment-317582"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/organizing-beats-debating-35353">Organizing Beats Debating</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Great point and looks to me now as an artifact of a world gone a bit insane pandering to protestors:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">imagine if pelosi went to the predominately latino community of Uvalde and did this but with a poncho &amp; sombrero <a href="https://t.co/oZYTCc8PK0">pic.twitter.com/oZYTCc8PK0</a></p> — (@tinywienerbabe) <a href="https://twitter.com/tinywienerbabe/status/1530712488349552640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Wed, 01 Jun 2022 17:30:53 +0000 artappraiser comment 317582 at http://dagblog.com Swing voters explain most http://dagblog.com/comment/317559#comment-317559 <a id="comment-317559"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/organizing-beats-debating-35353">Organizing Beats Debating</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Swing voters explain most electoral change cross-nationally, though population change &amp; turnout change both contribute. Turnout change is more important in the US. turnout change &amp; swing voters usually move in the same direction everywhere<br /><a href="https://t.co/o1hotEDbgk">https://t.co/o1hotEDbgk</a></p> — Matt Grossmann (@MattGrossmann) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattGrossmann/status/1531242151169994755?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 30, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Turnout change is relatively more important in the US than elsewhere because we have lower turnout &amp; switch between higher presidential &amp; lower midterm electorates. But there isn’t a trade-off: both partisan turnout &amp; vote choice move against the party of the president in midterm</p> — Matt Grossmann (@MattGrossmann) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattGrossmann/status/1531244583467851776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 30, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Mon, 30 May 2022 22:10:52 +0000 artappraiser comment 317559 at http://dagblog.com this looks promising NOT !  http://dagblog.com/comment/317558#comment-317558 <a id="comment-317558"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/organizing-beats-debating-35353">Organizing Beats Debating</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>this looks promising <span style="font-size:18px"><em>NOT ! <img alt="surprise" height="23" src="http://cdn.ckeditor.com/4.5.6/full-all/plugins/smiley/images/omg_smile.png" title="surprise" width="23" /></em></span></p> <p><span style="font-size:18px"><em> <div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Join <a href="https://twitter.com/codepink?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@codepink</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/DSA_Intl_Comm?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DSA_Intl_Comm</a> on their Philly stop of the Venezuelan Feminists Tour, TONIGHT at 5pm!<br /><br /> Details below <a href="https://t.co/vn5Gs61ivU">https://t.co/vn5Gs61ivU</a></p> — Philly DSA (@PhillyDSA) <a href="https://twitter.com/PhillyDSA/status/1531320573191659521?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 30, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </em></span></p> </div></div></div> Mon, 30 May 2022 22:04:10 +0000 artappraiser comment 317558 at http://dagblog.com This kind of organizing? http://dagblog.com/comment/317555#comment-317555 <a id="comment-317555"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/organizing-beats-debating-35353">Organizing Beats Debating</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>This kind of organizing?</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Around the same time, I started reading up on all of <a href="https://twitter.com/ylecun?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ylecun</a>'s papers and online videos. Loved his talk "Who is Afraid of Non-Convex Loss Functions?" from 2007: <a href="https://t.co/OTuHInWgJ8">https://t.co/OTuHInWgJ8</a>. It greatly captures the zeitgeist. (2/n)</p> — Durk Kingma (@dpkingma) <a href="https://twitter.com/dpkingma/status/1530968985134518274?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Mon, 30 May 2022 16:13:13 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 317555 at http://dagblog.com