dagblog - Comments for "Irony or hypocrisy? AOC calls out Pelosi for supporting Cuellar." http://dagblog.com/link/irony-or-hypocrisy-35365 Comments for "Irony or hypocrisy? AOC calls out Pelosi for supporting Cuellar." en Begs the question "what does http://dagblog.com/comment/318011#comment-318011 <a id="comment-318011"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/318010#comment-318010">@AOC blames our current</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Begs the question "what does culturally diverse mean?"</p> <p>From a dumb Southern boy perspective, India doesn't feel that diverse compared to the US, but i guess if you're Indian you appreciate whatever racial and linguistic and cultural differences that look much the same to me.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 23 Jun 2022 05:32:18 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 318011 at http://dagblog.com @AOC blames our current http://dagblog.com/comment/318010#comment-318010 <a id="comment-318010"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/irony-or-hypocrisy-35365">Irony or hypocrisy? AOC calls out Pelosi for supporting Cuellar.</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en"><a href="https://twitter.com/AOC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AOC</a> blames our current political and economic problems on the country's "Protestant work ethic." <a href="https://t.co/nonUrAEsRz">pic.twitter.com/nonUrAEsRz</a></p> — John Gage (@johnrobertgage) <a href="https://twitter.com/johnrobertgage/status/1539695917275779072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 22, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">I've heard the protestant work ethic explanation for lower US adoption of welfare states than Europe before, but I don't think it explains it. US and Europe didn't diverge a lot on welfare until really latter part of 20th century. <a href="https://t.co/10kSsubQyj">https://t.co/10kSsubQyj</a> <a href="https://t.co/UMdUebSAg5">https://t.co/UMdUebSAg5</a></p> — Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZaidJilani/status/1539798590817722371?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Actually it was right around post WW1 period <a href="https://t.co/jsNw0d2wxu">pic.twitter.com/jsNw0d2wxu</a></p> — Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZaidJilani/status/1539799231472484356?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">I don't know if work ethic even has a relationship to political support for welfare states. Some countries with very industrious work ethic have expansive welfare spending and vice versa.</p> — Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZaidJilani/status/1539799469994254336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">There's some evidence on the ethnic heterogeneity being a factor but if you look across countries, there are definitely homogenous states that have low welfare spending and diverse ones with higher spending. Probably not as determinative as argued.</p> — Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZaidJilani/status/1539800611373342720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">For instance Omar Wasow research showed that the civil rights movement was actually politically potent in the South, contrary to some conventional wisdom. The instability and violence in late 60s and then 70s probably did more to reduce support for welfare spending.</p> — Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZaidJilani/status/1539800959005638656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Is cultural diversity the explanation for levels of welfare spending in global South? Doubtful if you simply expand your analysis beyond America and Europe. <a href="https://t.co/dzQWmv3ceV">pic.twitter.com/dzQWmv3ceV</a></p> — Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZaidJilani/status/1539804858710196224?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Thu, 23 Jun 2022 03:14:48 +0000 artappraiser comment 318010 at http://dagblog.com Fatality https://t.co http://dagblog.com/comment/317743#comment-317743 <a id="comment-317743"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/317742#comment-317742">Looks to me lately like she&#039;s</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Fatality <a href="https://t.co/sau5ltCUe8">https://t.co/sau5ltCUe8</a></p> — Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1533945484745883649?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 6, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Tue, 07 Jun 2022 04:33:20 +0000 artappraiser comment 317743 at http://dagblog.com Looks to me lately like she's http://dagblog.com/comment/317742#comment-317742 <a id="comment-317742"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/irony-or-hypocrisy-35365">Irony or hypocrisy? AOC calls out Pelosi for supporting Cuellar.</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Looks to me lately like she's planning to help the Dems lose control of Congress</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Rep. <a href="https://twitter.com/AOC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AOC</a>: “It’s just really wild to be a person that works in a corrupt institution, which is what Congress is, and to try and be a normal person surrounded by so much decay and moral emptiness, that frankly transcends party, is very difficult.” <a href="https://t.co/x9hqvvpq8Y">pic.twitter.com/x9hqvvpq8Y</a></p> — The Hill (@thehill) <a href="https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1533101519699968005?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">“Language is fluid”: <a href="https://twitter.com/AOC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AOC</a> says people need to stop getting mad at the term “Latinx.” <a href="https://t.co/nynUqHUBkt">pic.twitter.com/nynUqHUBkt</a></p> — John Gage (@johnrobertgage) <a href="https://twitter.com/johnrobertgage/status/1533794168006393857?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 6, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Tue, 07 Jun 2022 04:30:53 +0000 artappraiser comment 317742 at http://dagblog.com the nonpartisan Cook http://dagblog.com/comment/317477#comment-317477 <a id="comment-317477"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/317459#comment-317459">there&#039;s the imaginary</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>the nonpartisan Cook Political Report</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>By running more aggressively against his party's far left, Rep. Henry Cuellar (D) appears to have amped up turnout &amp; expanded his margins among Hispanic Dems along the border. It's paying off tonight. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TX28?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TX28</a></p> — Dave Wasserman (@Redistrict) <a href="https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1529297611890597889?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 25, 2022</a></blockquote> </div> <p>seems almost like "Latinx" Dems around those parts don't like the Social Justice Dems, huh?</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 27 May 2022 21:16:00 +0000 artappraiser comment 317477 at http://dagblog.com then here's another example. http://dagblog.com/comment/317460#comment-317460 <a id="comment-317460"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/317459#comment-317459">there&#039;s the imaginary</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>then here's another example. cynically, background checks on all gun sales and a ban on assault rifles is ripe and willing to be picked</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>Kerr is accurate when he mentions 90% of Americans favor criminal background checks on all gun sales. Here is the data from a 2019 FOX News poll. It also found 67% of Americans favor a ban on assault rifles. <a href="https://t.co/sq5WQ3Mf9U">https://t.co/sq5WQ3Mf9U</a> <a href="https://t.co/r3uXOm0uvV">pic.twitter.com/r3uXOm0uvV</a></p> — (@JFRANCHIREPORTS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JFRANCHIREPORTS/status/1529298290134511618?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 25, 2022</a></blockquote> </div> <p>just like Biden among others always wanted. And what are a lot of Social Justice warriors promoting instead? The once dead hashtag #Defund Police was trending again on Twitter all day. Just the politically smart thing to do<em> NOT. SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP instead. Enough of your counterproductivity in 2020. </em>(Helped get us to a real bad place as far as I am concerned.)</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 27 May 2022 06:31:50 +0000 artappraiser comment 317460 at http://dagblog.com there's the imaginary http://dagblog.com/comment/317459#comment-317459 <a id="comment-317459"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/irony-or-hypocrisy-35365">Irony or hypocrisy? AOC calls out Pelosi for supporting Cuellar.</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>there's the imaginary electorate in the fervent dreams of Social Justice warriors and then there's the real electorate and this is a democracy, just sayin'</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">From what I understand about <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TX28?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TX28</a> one of the bigger dividing issues between Cuellar and Cisneros was the border. The district is moving right, was +4 Biden. Cisneros adopted positions closer to districts AOC or Cori Bush represent.</p> — Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZaidJilani/status/1529333096415387648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">It's hard for a candidate who has all left wing or all right wing positions to succeed in a swing House district. Usually successful candidates in those districts have a mix of views.</p> — Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZaidJilani/status/1529333262983868417?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">San Antonio section of the district probably does align with politics of NYC. But further south than that it would be closer to a typical swing district.</p> — Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZaidJilani/status/1529334315896782849?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Fri, 27 May 2022 06:16:03 +0000 artappraiser comment 317459 at http://dagblog.com At the end of the day, the http://dagblog.com/comment/317449#comment-317449 <a id="comment-317449"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/irony-or-hypocrisy-35365">Irony or hypocrisy? AOC calls out Pelosi for supporting Cuellar.</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">At the end of the day, the listless and inert Dem leaders and the progressive twitter activists who have the outrage dial set to 11-out-of-10 on seventeen different issues are both suffering from the same inability to set priorities and develop coherent plans.</p> — Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1529956204260298753?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 26, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p><a href="http://dagblog.com/link/organizing-beats-debating-35353">more here.lots more. he keeps writing on it.</a></p> <p>Rinse and repeat, over and over and over and over. Or you could finally switch to a system with like 4 parties, or at least a third party for the silent majority like Andrew Yang is trying to do, one that actually dislikes ideologues.</p> <p>(There's a dagblog version: Hillary would have solved all our problems. No Bernie. No Hillary. No Bernie. No Hillary. No Bernie. No Hillary....Truth is they both are/were so old and experienced that they would have dropped whatever ideological nonsense they used for the campaign and would have been pretty much like Biden as president. And I'm so old that I remember conventional wisdom used to be that voters actually liked the gridlock; I suspect that's fading. I think the majority just wants the federal government to DO STUFF that THE MAJORITY AGREES is all right AND FUCKING FORGET ALL THAT OTHER culture and class war and ideological bullshit.)</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 27 May 2022 00:26:57 +0000 artappraiser comment 317449 at http://dagblog.com Edit to add: When I reread http://dagblog.com/comment/317447#comment-317447 <a id="comment-317447"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/irony-or-hypocrisy-35365">Irony or hypocrisy? AOC calls out Pelosi for supporting Cuellar.</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Edit to add: When I reread this newspost by me, I'm horrified by how unclear it is. I have only myself to blame of course. I was asking whether AOC (not Pelosi) was being hypocritical or ironic when she called out Pelosi for supporting Cuellar. Of course, AOC did much to keep Pelosi in power by protecting her from progressive ire and refusing to support "Force the Vote" back in January 2021. Also, thanks PP for taking out the tracking code in the OP.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 26 May 2022 13:19:40 +0000 HSG comment 317447 at http://dagblog.com Or course she should have. http://dagblog.com/comment/317446#comment-317446 <a id="comment-317446"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/317436#comment-317436">Hal, clean the damn tracker</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Or course she should have. That's why I titled this hypocrisy or irony. AOC's  always got Pelosi's back when taking her on could make a difference. </p> </div></div></div> Thu, 26 May 2022 12:55:20 +0000 HSG comment 317446 at http://dagblog.com