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so this could be the plan to

artappraiser — Wed, 17 Aug 2022 00:54:01 +0000

so this could be the plan to protect the schoolkids where everyone could be carrying?

A police officer in Texas opened fire at a vehicle driving "recklessly" on school grounds during the Brownsville Independent School District’s first day of classes. pic.twitter.com/Vc0UuDLNkP
— K-12 School Shooting Database (@K12ssdb) August 17, 2022

"School shootings most

artappraiser — Fri, 22 Jul 2022 11:34:10 +0000

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"School shootings most commonly resulted from disputes or personal grievances, including conflicts between gangs according to the GAO's "characteristics of school shootings" analysis of the K-12 School Shooting Database."

Story by @BethDalbey https://t.co/3xohcFjsWv
— K-12 School Shooting Database (@K12ssdb) July 22, 2022

The Dallas school district

artappraiser — Wed, 20 Jul 2022 06:23:52 +0000

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The Dallas school district announced that it will require students to carry clear or mesh backpacks to class, joining other Texas districts in implementing new security measures following the Uvalde school massacre. https://t.co/W80TE3Ubia
— CNN (@CNN) July 20, 2022

this begs the question that

artappraiser — Mon, 27 Jun 2022 23:47:19 +0000

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this begs the question that maybe drills gives some kids the idea that bringing that gun from their home to school will get them some attention and respect as alphas? instead of victims of bullies?

According to a 2020 report by the US Government Accountability Office (based on analysis of the K-12 School Shooting Database), more than half of school shootings in the country were committed by current or former students who have been trained in the active shooter plan. https://t.co/ljNMYDiDxf
— K-12 School Shooting Database (@K12ssdb) June 27, 2022

A high school freshman was

artappraiser — Sat, 25 Jun 2022 07:29:25 +0000

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A high school freshman was arrested and charged for bringing a loaded ghost gun to his Hyattsville, Maryland, school on Thursday, the last day of classes before summer break. https://t.co/S4vME2IGtc
— WTOP (@WTOP) June 24, 2022

The new law won't have a lot of effect on school shootings. The kids will just switch to ghost guns and black market now. Also, they can still use their parents' guns, as they usually have.

Sure it will prevent a few mentally ill and angry nuts about this or that from getting guns, and that's a good thing, like in Buffalo.

But it won't stop most shootings by teenagers and kids in school. They're trying to prove they're big shot alpha males (or in some instances, get back at bullies, real or imagined.)

I think what will have an effect: trying them as adults, as here! Making it known, it's uncool, nobody will like it, you'll get locked up like an adult. Perhaps also making their parents liable. Rap music would help a lot if it made guns uncool as well. Used to be something that rural yahoos who need viagara to get it up, as Obama famously said "they like their guns and bibles" (Obama had a huge effect on Black kids in NYC - I noticed how many of them in Harlem were dressing and acting preppie. Now gone with the wind, a mass shooting in Harlem the other night, back to gangsta culcha.)

Apparently in Illinois,

artappraiser — Sun, 12 Jun 2022 09:33:54 +0000

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Apparently in Illinois, lawmakers do put a high value on school children's lives, at least while they are attending school

Today's law lesson from felony bond court —

Judge Marubio notes that, because a student allegedly tried to bring a gun into his high school, the law requires him to undergo a mental health evaluation as a condition of bail.

Until then, $250,000 bail as a precaution.
— CWBChicago (@CWBChicago) June 10, 2022

not so much otherwise, though.

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Orion — Mon, 30 May 2022 16:01:17 +0000

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From the New Yorker:

Orion — Mon, 30 May 2022 15:43:22 +0000

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From the New Yorker:

But the data are less salient than another element of the month’s tragedies: the images posted of the children who died, many of them smiling, blithely unaware of the flawed world they were born into. The knowledge that they are no longer alive—that any future iterations of those smiles have been permanently forestalled—is an indictment that we all have to live with.

There is an image of Ted Cruz that is jarred in memory. It is the same expression that Zelensky showed after seeing Russian atrocities. He simply doesn't believe it any more.

One thing I would suggest to Democrats is to build some sort of alternative. If you are a hunter or working in any sort of law enforcement, you end up going through gun channels to get stuff. Come up with an alternative vision and alternative organizations for this.

An alternative vision should focus squarely on protecting and nurturing children. When children are hurt on any level, we see red or we see black. There are vigilantes who attack sex offenders because they think the system does not give them what they really deserve. There is very little protection for children in this society - it's not a good place to be one. This makes it clear and the inherent weakness in the conservative defense of this issue is that they are avoiding that massive elephant in the room.

Quite literally everything we're discussing here - the medications, the guns, the hormone blockers - all have to do with a lack of respect for children and childhood by American society. There are no "family values" going on here. The society simply sees children as experimental subjects and flaws that need to be corrected.

This would also be a massive Achille's heel in the abortion debate - as how can you be pro-life when, given a few years, the baby could just get wiped out by a madman?

^ was thinking Dan Abrams

artappraiser — Sat, 28 May 2022 16:49:12 +0000

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^ was thinking Dan Abrams could definitely give valuable input here, if was honest about it...He began his professional career in 1994 as a reporter for Court TV, covering, among others, the O. J. Simpson murder trial....

knows what "human interest" crime stories have ab"sold" big with the public at any one time, and where crime and media intersect and interact, just from doing it so long

great thought-provoking

artappraiser — Sat, 28 May 2022 16:37:17 +0000

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great thought-provoking casual twitter convo along the lines of cultural trends in crime and popular attention to theme; (and yeah, they're making presumptions and that works best like here when people who know the eras of which they speak well and not just stereotypes)

In a society of spectacle, culture exists as memetic loops that propagate and eventually exhaust themselves, even crime.

We used to have serial killers, and by the 00s they mostly disappeared.

Before the 90s, school shootings were practically non-existent, now they’re routine.
— Antonio García Martínez (agm.eth) (@antoniogm) May 27, 2022

Remember political and celebrity assassinations? JFK, Bobby, MLK, Lennon…we used to have lots of them, and even more attempts at them (Reagan, Warhol).

Now, they’re non-existent.

The nihilistically depraved and psychotically violent have their own status-seeking loops.
— Antonio García Martínez (agm.eth) (@antoniogm) May 27, 2022

Girard had an entire theory of society around the mimesis of status competition, and how it eventually resolved itself via violence by the group on the individual. Christianity was meant to dissolve that drive for violence by elevating the victim to divinity in the Christ figure.
— Antonio García Martínez (agm.eth) (@antoniogm) May 27, 2022

On why serial killers seemed to just disappear one day:https://t.co/xX4zF2YAcz
— Antonio García Martínez (agm.eth) (@antoniogm) May 27, 2022

The overall rate of school shootings was higher in early 90s than now
— Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) May 27, 2022

That's the starting point.
— Antonio García Martínez (agm.eth) (@antoniogm) May 27, 2022

But it actually started to go down in late 90s and early 00s. Went up a bit more recently.
— Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) May 27, 2022

One aspect no one is talking about: media coverage that shows the shooter’s face inspires more shootings.

Yes gun laws, yes mental health. But ABC, CNN, FOX are all stoking the flameshttps://t.co/2Fyrs9WVTu
— Matt (@mattsmethods) May 27, 2022

A handful of radical groups did like 2,500 bombings in the span of two years in the early 70s.
— spooner (@spooner4321) May 27, 2022

Active shooter drills propagate and reinforce the memetic loop of school shootings.

To use your example, imagine if multiple times a year we had schoolchildren reenact and prepare for political assassinations.
— Josh Ryan (@joshryan212) May 27, 2022

And I remember in the '80s the terror of the day was workplace mass shootings. So much so that the term "going postal" entered the vernacular.
— NeoConTrarian (@NeoConTrarian) May 27, 2022

Would-be serial killers get caught way sooner nowadays.
— Samir Soriano (@samirsoriano) May 27, 2022

Yeah. With zero research other than a Netflix special or two, it seems like they disappeared with the advent of tech and connected systems.
— Paul Nichols (@naulpichols) May 27, 2022

Yep.
DNA has linked a lot of things.
— Casey (@miteycasey) May 27, 2022

Has anyone dug into why serial killers are no longer “a thing?”
— caroline mccarthy (@caro) May 27, 2022

I was wondering that not long ago and found this piece that has some experts weighing in. https://t.co/hpKrftHCyM
— Jay Caruso (@JayCaruso) May 27, 2022

But isn't most of this about technology? It's a lot harder to assassinate someone today or be a serial killer without being caught due to all the surveillance tech. School shooters don't have that issue since most of them want to die too...
— ElMioL (@ElMioL1) May 27, 2022

Uh, polonium tea? Kasshoghi? Assange (almost)? The Russian opposition leader?

Now it's not even about getting caught or not.

It's about having the geopolitical balls to have literal first world governments with standing militaries be afraid to do anything about it.
— Nathan K. (@USBCGuy) May 28, 2022

The reduction in serial killers has nothing to do with "memetic loops", but improvements in forensic science. Killers are caught after a killing or two, rather than after dozens.

Mass shootings are in large part the fault of you, the audience.https://t.co/Fnpt2WVDIn
— George Hackenschmidt (@GeorgeHackensc2) May 28, 2022

I think your analysis is the he most pertinent from an American https://t.co/ERIMUzKwQV try to explain and understand the roots of this: our sense of reality and capacity of empathy are melting in continuity spectacle of everything: cry over a kitten or kids caught in a war 1/
— ghislaine maro (@sarasunwoman) May 27, 2022

I think a big part of the lessening of serial killing isnt the lack of attention, but the technology, cameras DNA and phones. Also kids aren't allowed anywhere by themselves.
— Keith Kopinski (@KeithKopinski) May 27, 2022

I always wonder if they're still out there but not getting as much attention because they kill one by one and not en masse?
— potato doritos (@postposting1) May 27, 2022

the serial killer who gets really into his own press is gone
— potato doritos (@postposting1) May 27, 2022

It's noteworthy how the rise of school shootings seems to have coincided with the proliferation of easy-to-buy assault weapons. Would seem that mimetic loops can be coaxed along by external forces, and don't just arise out of thin air.
— DeepSee-er (@ErDeepsee) May 27, 2022

Just how we went from long tv shows to short tiktoks, the spam of attention is shorter so the action of the psychopath has to shorten too. Definitely seems media related.
— Pablo Eder (@pablothee) May 27, 2022

it goes on, there's a lot more!