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Liz Cheney voted with Trump

artappraiser — Thu, 18 Aug 2022 11:11:06 +0000

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Liz Cheney voted with Trump 93% of the time, and yet the MAGA idiots still gave her the boot out the door because she wouldn’t support the orange bastard’s anti-democratic stance.
— Wendy Democrat Patriot (@wendy_resists) August 17, 2022

^ think this is a point to remember. This is what my brothers see, this is what they mean when they say "it's the effect of his policies, not the man's behavior". To them, people like you and I have Trump Derangement syndrome inspired partly by the media's over coverage of his outrageous behavior and that really doesn't matter that much in the end. You might say, but what about our reputation with other world leaders? Well, they are the type that don't care about that, they are "MAGA" that way, they are for limiting the number of people in this country so that everyone left in it has it better.

How would she deal with

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 17 Aug 2022 17:11:15 +0000

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How would she deal with Manchin, with Putin & Xi & MbS, with The Squad, with McConnell & Matt Gaetz,..?
Could she stay as distant from the DoJ?
Besides the brand, there's just the muscle. They say Thatcher got a voice coach to turn her mousy suburban speech into a compelling tone. As just 1 of the moves towards a power position.

FBI integrity for Lulu

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 17 Aug 2022 11:33:02 +0000

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FBI integrity for Lulu

There Are 5,000 More Like Ricky Shifferhttps://t.co/pDjClicWJN
— emptywheel (@emptywheel) August 17, 2022

That's actually a very good

artappraiser — Wed, 17 Aug 2022 10:24:27 +0000

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That's actually a very good question given that Harris has not at all won over any media left or right or inbetween, that's for sure. Maybe she's doing it on purpose, to be a good soldier, but so far there's not much of a brand showing at all.

Interesting that it's like

artappraiser — Wed, 17 Aug 2022 10:18:48 +0000

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Interesting that it's like Jackson Hole and the rest of Wyoming are two separate red states:

wont make a difference overall, but whoa pic.twitter.com/7KA4EKdlSO
— J. Miles Coleman (@JMilesColeman) August 17, 2022

TONIGHT: Jim and Faye Palin,

artappraiser — Wed, 17 Aug 2022 10:06:56 +0000

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TONIGHT: Jim and Faye Palin, Sarah Palin’s ex-in-laws, are hosting an election eve party for Nick Begich, who is running against Palin for Alaska’s lone seat in the House. pic.twitter.com/wvpHY0AGOZ
— Nathaniel Reed (@ReedReports) August 16, 2022

and gonna be running against each other

Sarah Palin, Nick Begich, Mary Peltola advance to general election to represent Alaska congressional district https://t.co/Dli98cZ4fk
— Scoop Rocket News (@ScoopRocket) August 17, 2022

Matt Gaetz’s Republican

artappraiser — Wed, 17 Aug 2022 09:48:35 +0000

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Matt Gaetz’s Republican ‘America First’ opponent is now running an ad suggesting Gaetz was the informant against Trump. pic.twitter.com/1Fm6g7xibn
— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) August 16, 2022

Choice between Liz Cheney and

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 17 Aug 2022 07:31:45 +0000

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Choice between Liz Cheney and Kamala Harris, who would *you* pick?

p.s there are a lot of anti

artappraiser — Wed, 17 Aug 2022 05:40:51 +0000

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p.s there are a lot of anti-Cheney people out commenting in force on Twitter - "thank you wyoming" is trending. While it no doubt was started by a political operative, I don't think most of them are fake trolls, they are sincere. It's pretty clear many don't like Congress making a big deal about the Jan. 6 commission and dragging it out, think that is divisive, especially as it just lasted a day while the BLM protests/riots went on all summer and fall allover the country. I guess that synchs with thinking that Federal government has little to do with and isn't all that much more important than people's daily lives outside the beltway?

NYTimes' focus group: how

artappraiser — Wed, 17 Aug 2022 05:26:49 +0000

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NYTimes' focus group: how Wyoming GOP voters thought about Cheney

These 13 Wyoming Voters Helped Decide Liz Cheney’s Fate run by Katherine Miller and Adrian J. Rivera, Aug. 16

intro:

Like other Republicans who voted to impeach President Donald Trump, Representative Liz Cheney lost her primary.

Since Jan. 6, 2021, Ms. Cheney has rededicated her political capital to preventing Mr. Trump, whom she views as an existential threat to American democracy, from holding office again. She also represents one of the most pro-Trump states in the country.

In the week before the primary, we convened a focus group of people who planned to vote in it to talk about Wyoming, Ms. Cheney, her Trump-backed opponent Harriet Hageman and the Republican Party — and to help us understand why Ms. Cheney was losing. The group included Republicans who feel Ms. Cheney is not representing the average Wyomingite, some of whom believe the events of Jan. 6 weren’t all that notable, and who find her angry and not focused on issues like inflation. The group also included several people who felt strongly that Ms. Cheney is doing the right thing. “I’ve been here forever,” said one voter who registered as a Republican to vote in the primary. “And I’m proud that finally, I feel like my voice is being heard, for the first time ever.”

Unusually, most everyone agreed on the basic situation: Ms. Cheney has made Jan. 6 the centerpiece of her career, knowing that many constituents aren’t with her. Even some of the participants unhappy with Ms. Cheney said she was committed and doing what she believed. What that singular focus meant, though, divided the group sharply. “While some people may think it’s brave that she’s going by her values,” one Hageman supporter said, “who is she representing besides herself?”

Implicitly, the way Mr. Trump has changed the party and the meaning of “conservative” came up time and time again. One Hageman supporter said she might have voted for Ms. Cheney if not for her “vendetta.” One committed Cheney supporter said that now there is “no standard” of what a Republican is. “And it’s actually forcing people, myself included,” he said, “to ask: Am I even a Republican?”

Transcript follows.

So most of them think she is out to burnish her career and doesn't care about them.

What's amazing to me is that it's implied they apparently think Trump the King Narcissist cares about them? They blame her more than him or the Jan. 6 rioters for changing their party?! Was the Congress just suppose to sit back and be overrun by a mob? Huh?!

Otherwise what comes through loud and clear is that they don't like Federal government telling them what to do in Wyoming. Too many regulations. There I can see how Trump fits the bill.

But then why should you care at all if your Congressional rep cares about you? Heck you should be glad she's out there making a name for herself?