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Well, it's pretty hard to

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 17 Sep 2022 17:16:11 +0000

Well, it's pretty hard to draw a straight line from 1968 to 1980 w/o some speed bumps. Reagan's election was following Ford's recession, Arab embargoes, Detroit going dark/rust belt migration, Carter's wear-a-sweater settle for less + 20% mortgages plus humiliation at the hands of Iran and worry about Japan's inevitable superiority, while the Detroit River/Lake Erie caught on fire (and Chicago couldn't handle it's blizzard). So high tax rates and little to show for it was an easy target. Tip O'Neill was the tax-and-spend poster boy, not LBJ. And don't forget Falwell and Anita Bryant "look out, teh gays" culture wars. How was farming/wheat & corn exports in those years?

Exactly, but I think that

artappraiser — Sat, 17 Sep 2022 16:47:05 +0000

In reply to I thought it was Great

Exactly, but I think that cluelessness is what led to the popularity of Reagan. And ruined that goodwill towards the Democratic party that FDR built, never to return. I think Reaganism overall still has the majority's sympathy because Yglesias is right, too many Congressional Dems just throw money at it, whatever it is; too few of them are Liz Warren wonk types who actually know what they are doing. The dummies on the GOP side, and the loudest are very much dummies, have it easier because their party's goal is basically for the Federal government. not to do anything but to say 'no'. So they don't need wonks.

I thought it was Great

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 17 Sep 2022 10:12:48 +0000

In reply to ^ comes to mind that enacting

I thought it was Great Society programs that sounded nice, but at huge expense and some not always well thought out - "just throw money at it, it'll work!!!" Back when tax brackets were much higher.

^ comes to mind that enacting

artappraiser — Fri, 16 Sep 2022 07:10:13 +0000

In reply to Yglesias skewers this report

^ comes to mind that enacting government programs w/o rigorous research that sound good but don't work as advertised is how 'tax and spend liberal' came to be a slur that worked wonders

Yglesias skewers this report

artappraiser — Fri, 16 Sep 2022 06:47:42 +0000

In reply to Expanded Safety Net Drives Sharp Drop in Child Poverty

Yglesias skewers this report and uses that to vent about how many Dem pols are clueless and disorganized dopes about policy, buy pigs in a poke like this, and how somehow they got to get better at that

Pretty persuasive argument from @MattBruenig that the big 2018 decline in child poverty is an artifice tax of a change in Census methodology rather than of CTC expansion or labor market trends.https://t.co/wi704gMjZy pic.twitter.com/GE2ddmcQrd
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) September 15, 2022

MB is a smart guy but he’s not the only smart guy in the world, the frequency with which he is the one who pokes holes in these things suggests a larger story about incentives and institutional goals. https://t.co/UkWScj07tU
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) September 15, 2022