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They’re in damage control

artappraiser — Sat, 29 Oct 2022 02:29:59 +0000

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They’re in damage control mode. They will 100% screw Ukraine over if we give them a chance.
— Angry Staffer (@Angry_Staffer) October 29, 2022

I heard tonight that the CPC

artappraiser — Thu, 27 Oct 2022 01:07:31 +0000

In reply to Progressive Caucus members urge Biden to rethink Ukraine strategy

I heard tonight that the CPC initially hoped in June that it would get scores of signatures and it fell flat, so the plan was to set it for release when it reached 30 signatures. That happened on Monday and CPC pressed the button, without the signatories being able to stop it. https://t.co/TSe76lSQWo
— Julian Borger (@julianborger) October 27, 2022

very interesting side issue raised:

.@RadioFreeTom Tom, it would be great if you could write a short expose on Quincy Institute, as it is cofounded by #IranLobby members. I can't think of anyone better to shed some light on it. Quincy has been in the spotlight of Iranians since the start of #IranRevolution. https://t.co/Cg9TQojaCr
— Hasan (@hasanaketanbal) October 25, 2022

co-sign this. Tom, you have a great platform at The Atlantic and this is something that needs to be written.
— Hedley Lamarr (@Mel_Brooks_Fan) October 26, 2022

~NEVERMIND~

artappraiser — Tue, 25 Oct 2022 18:11:26 +0000

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~NEVERMIND~

After just 24 hours, members of the congressional progressive caucus withdrew their letter urging the President to seek a peaceful resolution to the war in Ukraine.

At this point, I suppose it’s in order for me to withdraw my statement of appreciation for their courage. https://t.co/WUACv7l11g pic.twitter.com/tzXS4YEP0p
— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) October 25, 2022

A brief review of the overnight implosion of the Progressive Caucus's Ukraine letter to Biden https://t.co/US5ImIGsGF via @TPM
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) October 25, 2022

....My own initial read of the letter was that one group of signatories had worked with an outside group, the Quincy Institute, on a letter calling for a push for a ceasefire. Others among the signatories weren’t really prepared to do that and insisted on adding various commitments to Ukraine’s independence and no actions not supported by Ukraine. Unable to agree on these points they piled both conflicting positions into one letter and signed it. More generally, I think there are people in the Progressive Caucus who simply weren’t comfortable with a position indistinguishable from the rest of their party and indeed from many more mainstream Republicans. But the fallout from the release of the letter shows a clumsiness and obtuseness I would not have expected from members like Rep. Jayapal or Jamie Raskin or Ro Khanna....

btw, A.O.C. signed the letter

artappraiser — Tue, 25 Oct 2022 09:09:43 +0000

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btw, A.O.C. signed the letter along with all the other members of 'The Squad.' (They are not really loyal members of the Democratic party at all, but deeply invested in advancing the fortunes of the Democratic Socialists of America party, of which A.O.C. is a full-fledged member.) Just another data point for what JusticeDemWatch said here: AOC 'ATTACKING AND UNDERMINING' JOE BIDEN. If you are a loyal Democrat (I'm not, I'm an Independent) you really shouldn't trust her to be a team player. She's not one, just sayin'

A big contingent of House

artappraiser — Tue, 25 Oct 2022 07:56:47 +0000

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A big contingent of House progressives is pushing for a shift on Ukraine strategy — and aligning with Donald Trump in the process.

Some Congressional Progressive Caucus members want Joe Biden to pursue direct negotiations with Russia to end the war.https://t.co/Mztz1Pm9Ve
— Congress Minutes (@politicongress) October 24, 2022

Shoutout to the House Progressive Caucus for showing everyone exactly the wrong way to negotiate with Putin.

Maybe next time, don’t release this crap 2 weeks before a critical election.

To be clear, the letter had good points, but it also sends completely the wrong message. https://t.co/4mF8f7mfJw
— Angry Staffer (@Angry_Staffer) October 25, 2022

I can only imagine the 60 members who didn’t sign this are like pic.twitter.com/SMOJELHyZU
— Angry Staffer (@Angry_Staffer) October 25, 2022

Everyone wants the war in Ukraine to end as soon as possible.

The only one who can actually make that happen is Putin, and if anyone thinks appeasement is going to work for him, please read just one book.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
— Angry Staffer (@Angry_Staffer) October 25, 2022

This infuriates me! The only acceptable negotiated settlement is the complete and uncontested re-establishment of the sovereign borders of Ukraine. This is the position of the recognized elected government of the people of Ukraine. The USA has no business negotiating anything!
— jason (@wilmingtonfilm) October 25, 2022

I usually agree with the members of the Progressive Caucus who signed the letter to Biden on Ukraine, but this letter is worse than useless. It will have the opposite of its intended effect. Here's why: 1/x
— Dante Atkins (@DanteAtkins) October 24, 2022

2/x far from shortening the war, I view it as a certainty that this letter will make its way to Russian state media within the next day or two as evidence of fracturing solidarity among politicians in Biden's own party for his support of Ukraine.
— Dante Atkins (@DanteAtkins) October 24, 2022

3/x it will further encourage Putin that his long-term strategy of keeping the war going until US domestic resolve breaks or a Putin-friendly politician wins the presidency is viable, and Russian propaganda media will work overtime to convince the public that it is viable.
— Dante Atkins (@DanteAtkins) October 24, 2022

4/x to further this fracturing, Russia will attempt to continue to disrupt global energy supplies and Ukrainian food exports, because the Progressive Caucus just told Putin that these things were creating domestic pressure in the United States.
— Dante Atkins (@DanteAtkins) October 24, 2022

5/x The letter just told Putin and Lavrov that their strategy is working. They now have incentive to conduct further atrocities in Ukraine, do even more damage to global supply chains, and keep that war machine going as long as they can.
— Dante Atkins (@DanteAtkins) October 24, 2022

6/6 the Progressive Caucus members thought they were trying to shorten the war. But if anything, they just prolonged it It was a baffling, severe foreign policy blunder that risks long-term consequences.
— Dante Atkins (@DanteAtkins) October 24, 2022