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This is actually a great

DF — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:02:08 +0000

In reply to You might want to consider

This is actually a great source to bring into the discussion. I just read this yesterday. I find it interesting because it looks as a group that spends its time armed and regularly provoked to use a weapon.

I also happen to believe that the best way to a less violent society is to have a more educated society with more economic opportunity and less economic inequality. Maybe the answers lie not with more guns or less guns, but with giving people more productive, fulfilling things to do with their time.

You seem to have

DF — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:58:30 +0000

In reply to You might want to consider

You seem to have misunderstood my comment. When I said that I'd prefer to live in a world without guns, I meant that in the three wishes sense. You must have missed the part where I expended all of that effort trying to show that there isn't a lot of good evidence that stringent gun control laws have the sought after outcome.

You might want to consider

Donal — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 09:53:50 +0000

In reply to You might want to consider

You might want to consider this before you alienate anyone else,

From Cop in the Hood

Anyway, a recent study shows that college makes cops less quick to use force.

Rings true to me but I'm not sure why. Perhaps, if nothing else, college means you're older when you join the P.D. And that makes you wiser. But I also like to think that college and college class helps teach people how to talk respectfully to people you don't agree with. That's a good tool for a cop.

That's a good tool for anyone.

You seem interested in

quinn esq — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 02:32:23 +0000

In reply to Quinn sez: Dude. Jack

You seem interested in learning about the Irish thing - here's a bit for you.

The 2001 Census says 14% of Canadians have Irish roots. That's against 10.8% of Americans in 2000. Historically, the Irish in Canada had an even larger role - making up 24% of the population in 1867. In the 1800's the majority of Newfoundlanders spoke Irish, and it forms the basis for their own dialect today.

Canada's "Ellis Island" was Grosse Isle, in the St Lawrence River. Funny, it's other name is the "Irish Memorial National Historic Site of Canada." I wonder why they named it that? Could be because of the 5,000 dead Irish buried there, victims of typhus, as they fled the Famine.

That's probably enough for now. The Irish wish you a good night, Jack.

You might want to consider

jack burton — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 02:01:50 +0000

In reply to They're definitely making an

You might want to consider this before you choose to live in a world without guns...

http://www.nationalreview.com/kopel/kopel120501.shtml

Quinn sez: Dude. Jack

jack burton — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 01:54:32 +0000

In reply to And just for fun, note how

Quinn sez: Dude.

Jack replies:

Oh… I am so hoping that I’ll get a “full r” here. I’ll even settle for a “full q +” but I feel I am going to be disappointed again since it’s starting out with a lame dude.

Quinn sez:

What's the point of providing a cite to a man who's not even smart enough to read Wikipedia? Go read "immigration to Canada." Read where Canada has the highest per capita immigration in the world.

Jack replies:

Ahhh, yes, Wikipedia… which no college in the country accepts as a cite in a student’s paper because anybody can get on there and post anything about any subject without any verification.

Quinn sez:
Then check out Toronto - the most multicultural city going.

Jack replies:

Have you always had this fixation about a single city or is this a new development?

Quinn sez:

Not NYC or LA or Miami. And yes, they're mostly non-white - Toronto is just passing the 50% non-white mark now. I'm moving later this month to the Danforth neighbourhood, known as "Greektown" for some odd reason. And if you don't like Toronto, go read something on Vancouver. Huge non-white populations, yet highest property value of any City in North America, but Gun Control laws.

Jack replies: You post that as if you are surprised that property values are “high.” You have to point that out especially for a place with “non white” population. Have you always been this racist or is it a recent development. I know that canucks in general have problems with non-white people but I can see from your example that this is very true.

Quinn sez:

You embarrass yourself when you don't even understand the most basic facts. We have people from every ethnic group under the sun.

Jack replies: It’s hard to embarrass myself when you are the one making up from thin air what you think I don’t understand. Please point out to the world for their understanding where I ever said that canada didn’t have ethnic groups of any kind. Be specific. Give detail.

Quinn sez:

We always have. We presently have the world's highest immigration rate. Our ethnic mix undoubtedly varies somewhat from yours, formerly with more Scots, more French, Ukrainians, Dutch, but - now - more Asian and African, again as a % of population. It's not that it's better or worse, just that it... is.

Jack replies: Good catch…you saved yourself from another embarrassing racist comment. But again… as I pointed out… I was speaking of the massive waves of immigrents who came in via ellis island… not the ones who came in today on the tarmac at Montreal International.

Quinn sez:

But apparently, because you didn't hear PATTY DUKE TALK ABOUT IT, IN A STORY ABOUT ELLIS ISLAND, it didn't happen? My God man, do you know how stupid you sound?

Jack replies: So you admit then that there were no “Canandian wakes” for all the Irish leaving for your country? Thank you.

Quinn sez:

And dude. For anyone who knows me, my history, and my style, the fact that you would have to set up some imaginary late night parking lot confrontation to try and convince yourself that I'm some wimpy little guy who needs a"MAN" with a gun to help, is really pretty funny. Just as a heads up, I'm from a farm family, 9 kids in my own family, with 6 boys, and in the other farm families, 16 boys in all. The 5 boys in the house next door are 6' 3", 6' 5" and3 are 6' 8" and 6' 9". My Dad fought heavyweight, and I was a hockey "goon" at the end of my playing days. And yes, loads of them were in the military, for over 800 years now, if you're interested in Scottish family history. Google "Earl Marischal."

Jack replies: Sure you are… and on the internet no one knows if you’re a dog. That is the first thing everyone learns. You’ve been woofing for quite some time now. Down, boy.

Quinn sez:

And just for fun, note how your discussion of guns repeatedly tracks over to.... immigration. Amusing. Seems to me that you white American guys just can't handle your immigrants without a weapon. Sounds kinda wimpy to me, but if that's your style, good on ya Jack..

Jack replies:

I mentioned it once. One time. You’ve shown that your writing ability is down in the middle school level but “one time” and “repeatedly” are not the same in math.

I answered your comments concerning immigration. Unless you want me to put a lot of ……….. and ------------- in the sentences it’s hard to hold that dialogue that canuck was posting about if you keep bringing a subject up and then expect me not to answer it.

But perhaps you do. So be it.

And which “white Americans” are you speaking of, eh. You must have me confused with some other Jack Burton. Been watching too many movies? But you don’t care, eh. Just gives you a chance to make one more racist remark.

Pitiful. But expected. Didn’t even rise to a “full m or n”.

And just for fun, note how

quinn esq — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 01:13:44 +0000

In reply to Dude. What's the point of

And just for fun, note how your discussion of guns repeatedly tracks over to.... immigration. Amusing. Seems to me that you white American guys just can't handle your immigrants without a weapon. Sounds kinda wimpy to me, but if that's your style, good on ya Jack..

Dude. What's the point of

quinn esq — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 01:11:46 +0000

In reply to Quinn sez: Jack. Let's try

Dude. What's the point of providing a cite to a man who's not even smart enough to read Wikipedia? Go read "immigration to Canada." Read where Canada has the highest per capita immigration in the world. Then check out Toronto - the most multicultural city going. Not NYC or LA or Miami. And yes, they're mostly non-white - Toronto is just passing the 50% non-white mark now. I'm moving later this month to the Danforth neighbourhood, known as "Greektown" for some odd reason. And if you don't like Toronto, go read something on Vancouver. Huge non-white populations, yet highest property value of any City in North America, but Gun Control laws.

You embarrass yourself when you don't even understand the most basic facts. We have people from every ethnic group under the sun. We always have. We presently have the world's highest immigration rate. Our ethnic mix undoubtedly varies somewhat from yours, formerly with more Scots, more French, Ukrainians, Dutch, but - now - more Asian and African, again as a % of population. It's not that it's better or worse, just that it... is.

But apparently, because you didn't hear PATTY DUKE TALK ABOUT IT, IN A STORY ABOUT ELLIS ISLAND, it didn't happen? My God man, do you know how stupid you sound?

And dude. For anyone who knows me, my history, and my style, the fact that you would have to set up some imaginary late night parking lot confrontation to try and convince yourself that I'm some wimpy little guy who needs a"MAN" with a gun to help, is really pretty funny. Just as a heads up, I'm from a farm family, 9 kids in my own family, with 6 boys, and in the other farm families, 16 boys in all. The 5 boys in the house next door are 6' 3", 6' 5" and3 are 6' 8" and 6' 9". My Dad fought heavyweight, and I was a hockey "goon" at the end of my playing days. And yes, loads of them were in the military, for over 800 years now, if you're interested in Scottish family history. Google "Earl Marischal."

So, ummmmm, yeah. I'd be peeing my pants and need a blogger like you with a gun.

Ta ta Jack.

P.S. And no, I'm not 100%

quinn esq — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 00:45:48 +0000

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P.S. And no, I'm not 100% convinced that gun control laws ARE what differentiates the two nations, nor that those are what is most needed. Just that... I very much suspect they're relevant and worth looking at.

Sorry, didn't mean to say I

quinn esq — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 00:44:38 +0000

In reply to We ARE the best possible

Sorry, didn't mean to say I thought ONLY Canada was relevant. Not at all. Absolutely, it's worth studying and comparing the Eastern Bloc, UK, historic examples, etc.

I just felt it was odd - and perhaps misleading - to leave out the most obvious comparison.

No offense to the Russians! ;-)