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"Why Won’t Elite Colleges

artappraiser — Mon, 16 Oct 2023 00:59:30 +0000

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"Why Won’t Elite Colleges Deploy the One Race-Neutral Way to Achieve Diversity?

Giving a leg up to poor students of all races would diversify elite schools. Officials would rather do anything else."

Easy question with a straightforward answer: their goal is not to help the underprivileged https://t.co/H1CJ2y3QkP
— Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) October 15, 2023

NEW: Top law school officials

artappraiser — Wed, 23 Aug 2023 16:43:59 +0000

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NEW: Top law school officials are brainstorming ways to circumvent the affirmative action ban, advising schools not to create a "record" of "discriminatory intent" and warning that socioeconomic preferences will result in too many white and Asian admits.https://t.co/JuTN2nu31b
— Aaron Sibarium (@aaronsibarium) August 23, 2023

Snowflakes.

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 11 Aug 2023 16:29:54 +0000

In reply to Poll in April of this year:

Snowflakes.

Poll in April of this year:

artappraiser — Fri, 11 Aug 2023 01:16:42 +0000

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Poll in April of this year:

Share of Americans who say there has been a great deal or a fair amount of progress on racial equality in the last 60 years, among those who identify with or lean to:
The Republican Party: 67%
The Democratic Party: 38%https://t.co/ygtgKbN6j7 pic.twitter.com/aGy12D8r7o
— Pew Research Center (@pewresearch) August 10, 2023

Not sure how you can look at

artappraiser — Tue, 25 Jul 2023 00:12:41 +0000

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Not sure how you can look at this data, ostensibly be interested in either meritocracy or equality, and want to move away from standardized tests. It's the subjective measures that are most slanted in favor of the rich kids.https://t.co/r4rNYBnrfK pic.twitter.com/S8w8HQ0yz9
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) July 24, 2023

Jesus. If this worries you

artappraiser — Mon, 17 Jul 2023 05:28:28 +0000

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Jesus. If this worries you about the future of medical training and its attendant outcomes, it should. #AffirmativeAction https://t.co/ky5c4R2Eav
— japecake (@japecake) July 17, 2023

Even more telling and unbelievable: The story of Patrick Chavis, one of the medical students admitted to UC Davis under the old quota system that was the focus of the landmark Bakke SCOTUS case. (Spoiler: It did NOT end well—for anyone.)#AffirmativeAction https://t.co/JRutqFJyrL
— japecake (@japecake) July 17, 2023

Yeah, I noted a while back

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 15 Jul 2023 02:09:00 +0000

In reply to Three possible reasons for

Yeah, I noted a while back that these Masters Divinity degrees weren't paying off as much as advertised

Three possible reasons for

artappraiser — Sat, 15 Jul 2023 01:36:02 +0000

In reply to Co-ed education at a heavy

Three possible reasons for the divergence come to mind:

1 choice of major

2 childraising as a single parent (raises expenses & stalls careers)

3 compositional effects: from lower income families, I believe, more women than men attend college https://t.co/y2XIloe0Pd
— Alice (@AliceFromQueens) July 14, 2023

Co-ed education at a heavy

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 14 Jul 2023 17:50:00 +0000

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Co-ed education at a heavy premium?

Prolly breaking down by ethnic groups would be useful as wellof course extortionate tuitions were bound to hurt someone.

Men have paid off a significant portion of their student loans since 2009. Women have not. pic.twitter.com/qo8UF7Rxr5
— Noah Smith (@Noahpinion) July 14, 2023

He's ignoring the biggest

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 10 Jul 2023 05:55:28 +0000

In reply to 1) Unbelievable (also wholly

He's ignoring the biggest divide, Trump vs Biden voters, and also agnori g that the preponderance of white population overrides the minority consideration.

Plus, the concept of an absolute ban on affirmative action ignores areas of need and conflates everything, which may be convincing for a 60-year-old black man looking at retirement, but a 22-year-old trying to get employment or gov services in say South Carolina or Tennessee (or Arizona - it's not just the south for sure) may encounter more structural issues at play in *some* fields. At a time when we're much more able to finely slice & dice data and determine causes for various phenomena, it seems naive and wrongheaded to take a class of remedial efforts off the table for an idealistic aspiration that isn't always held up in practice, sometimes with glaring prejudice among representatives who have the majority and are able to force unequal outcomes with a "my way or the highway" approach. It's a bit similar to my feeling about abortion - I'd like to solve it *more and more* hrough an earlier chemical treatment that avoids discussions and sometimes valid concerns about human good, but the more dogmatic will focus on supposed 9th month abortions and total bans on access and availability of actual clinics.

It pisses me off that this late in the game 1 particular ethnic category is more mired in poverty and crime/violence, and overall less education/literacy/etc. But a sweeping ruling that says "just treat them the same" doesn't look promising, and strategies for workable improvements remain dubious, though I suppose some that have been tried have the data to prove they help. It's a complex social issue. The "gun rights" advocates have made it worse, but that's not the only reason. Woke posturing has us going into a similar "just don't say anything with microagression and put in some more DIA/CRT slots so these honkies can get with the modern program" is often as distasteful and disruptive as these overreaching equality laws.