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Kamala is a Cop — I like this

artappraiser — Fri, 22 Sep 2023 06:50:37 +0000

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Kamala is a Cop — I like this strategy. https://t.co/gtQtAgY58g
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) September 21, 2023

Well, it's known you can

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 20 Sep 2023 11:11:17 +0000

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Well, it's known you can marginalize a threat via the foreign service, just as he defused Petraeus with another Afghan deployment.

1 Russian foreign minister was definitely sidelined like that, even though he was good at that job too.

Lincoln Project trying to

artappraiser — Wed, 20 Sep 2023 02:39:19 +0000

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Lincoln Project trying to help Biden's chances:

Now more than ever, a leader like President Biden is needed. Governing for all of America and putting country first, his dignity and diplomacy are healing our nation. We know it and the numbers prove it: President Biden is good for our country. pic.twitter.com/bhChsqLNPO
— The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) September 19, 2023

p.s. just thought of this now

artappraiser — Wed, 20 Sep 2023 01:58:21 +0000

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p.s. just thought of this now for the first time: Pres. Obama made sure Hillary was nowhere near domestic policy, even tho she was known to be an expert on health insurance, by making her Sec. of State, doing international policy, the one area where she was known to be to the right of center, even famously hawkish from her time representing NY in the Senate after 9/11.

David Hogg recommends a short

artappraiser — Wed, 20 Sep 2023 01:51:07 +0000

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David Hogg recommends a short Vox video on FL, which I also found quite good:

If you are curious How Republicans conquered Florida this video does a great job of explaining it. The TL;DR of it is that Dems have lacked major investment in Florida in comparison to Republicans the result of which has been a failure to reach many Latino populations. The…
— David Hogg (@davidhogg111) September 18, 2023

Some things especially stood out: the new dominant demographic of immigrants from places like Venezuela and Columbia who have added to the old time Cubans who loathe 'socialism' and love U.S.'s capitalism and associate the Dem party with the former; the enormous popularity of the government of Ron DeSantis and the local GOP in general; how the Dem party has basically given up on the state; how many young people there are registering as Independents if not GOP.

After which I thought about how many in the electorate might thnk Joe Biden a good and fine old style moderate who gets things done, but may die in a 2d term. And how many loathe the idea of a President Kamala Harris, and how many think a younger Democrat would not be the 'moderate' type that would make them happy, that they think of the younger Dem party in general as way too 'liberal".(There's certainly no one I can think of to do Sister-Souljah type moments like Bill Clinton famously did and similar initially by Barack Obama to establish himself a bit to the right of Hillary Clinton.)

Losing conservative Hispanic

artappraiser — Tue, 19 Sep 2023 22:09:41 +0000

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Losing conservative Hispanic ancestral Democrats while gaining moderate white ancestral Republicans is an amazingly positive trade for the Democratic party. (The Senate exists!)

A lot of liberals just feel like they own the minority vote so this is a crack in their self-image. pic.twitter.com/95v5uTNAU5
— fulano (@cowabungatime) September 19, 2023

Trump runs much tighter with

artappraiser — Tue, 19 Sep 2023 22:07:51 +0000

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Trump runs much tighter with Biden in 2024 polls than he did in 2020.

A big reason: They show Trump getting an average of 20% of the Black vote and 42% of the Hispanic vote.

The former would be roughly double the GOP's average over the past 50 years.https://t.co/fKjcTUMI2U
— Aaron Blake (@AaronBlake) September 19, 2023

Interesting anecdotal on

artappraiser — Tue, 19 Sep 2023 21:58:46 +0000

In reply to I am very skeptical of

Interesting anecdotal on Yglesias' twitter thread:

I made phone calls for Hillary in Metro Detroit on the eve of the election and one of the great shocks of my life was talking to Dearborn Muslims, who predominantly seemed to lean toward Trump (at the height of Muslim ban talk).
— Phineas Gage (@tchbstrd) September 19, 2023

two can play the game; check

artappraiser — Tue, 19 Sep 2023 20:42:36 +0000

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two can play the game; check it out:

The Democratic Dilemma on Dark Money

Liberal electoral groups are now spending more from undisclosed donors than Republicans. Campaigners don’t readily give up winning strategies.

BY RACHEL M. COHEN @ Prospect.org, DECEMBER 2, 2021

Mho, the best solution to this 'problem' is ranked choice voting.Check out for an example, what happened in Alaska.

I am very skeptical of

artappraiser — Tue, 19 Sep 2023 20:32:23 +0000

In reply to Hispanic flyover too

I am very skeptical of blaming Soros or the Mercer family or Steve Bannon or Murdoch or Haberman/NYT etc. with plotting to influence any group of REGISTERED VOTERS (in "flyover") with disinfo., misinfo., propaganda etc.. Rather, it's the other way around! I think it's more typical that voters seek out info. that confirms what they already believe. To think it's all a plot by evil guys to change minds is conspiratorial thinking that gets you nowhere in the end! Because in the end, you still don't understand why those voters voted the way they did! Instead you end up thinking: if we just locked up the Mercers and Ginni Thomas etc., everything would be fine. NOOOOO! That is deluded (and in the end, very anti-democratic in that it presumes they are dummies who shouldn't be allowed to think what they do These voters are real, they are not going away:

The best available research on Hispanics who flipped to Trump in 2020 has the boring-but-important conclusion that they flipped because they had fairly conservative views all along. https://t.co/wZESBefqz2 pic.twitter.com/YQ6eR0cIEi
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) September 19, 2023

A perfect example of what I am talking about would be "Lulu" who used to participate on this forum. Did anything ever manage to change his preferred media sources? NOPE! Never! He wanted to have his beliefs confirmed!