dagblog - Comments for "Democrats need Marie Gluesenkamp Perez" http://dagblog.com/link/democrats-need-marie-gluesenkamp-perez-35915 Comments for "Democrats need Marie Gluesenkamp Perez" en I thought the crime czar move http://dagblog.com/comment/327863#comment-327863 <a id="comment-327863"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/327859#comment-327859">Before doing something weird</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I thought the crime czar move was a good example.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 28 Sep 2023 07:12:29 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 327863 at http://dagblog.com Before doing something weird http://dagblog.com/comment/327859#comment-327859 <a id="comment-327859"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/democrats-need-marie-gluesenkamp-perez-35915">Democrats need Marie Gluesenkamp Perez</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Before doing something weird and panicky like dumping the VP or challenging an incumbent president, Democrats should try something normal like being 5-10% less progressive across a broad swathe of issues. <a href="https://t.co/mq0bwfYRLm">https://t.co/mq0bwfYRLm</a></p> — Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1706990025093546418?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 27, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Thu, 28 Sep 2023 05:05:17 +0000 artappraiser comment 327859 at http://dagblog.com Yeah, Saudi sentenced to http://dagblog.com/comment/327452#comment-327452 <a id="comment-327452"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/327450#comment-327450">Where they might need some of</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Yeah, Saudi sentenced to death just for what he *writr*. </p> <p>But Joe Biden... </p> </div></div></div> Wed, 30 Aug 2023 20:31:27 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 327452 at http://dagblog.com Where they might need some of http://dagblog.com/comment/327450#comment-327450 <a id="comment-327450"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/327445#comment-327445">Takedown of bland LGBTQ</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Where they might need some of that posturing:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Police in Nigeria say they have arrested about 200 gay men at an event in southern Delta state. Sixty-seven of them will now be charged after investigations. One of them said they had been locked up for days without water and access to their phones. <a href="https://t.co/562VumxYjO">https://t.co/562VumxYjO</a> <a href="https://t.co/M7Yrqbc2fP">pic.twitter.com/M7Yrqbc2fP</a></p> — BBC News Africa (@BBCAfrica) <a href="https://twitter.com/BBCAfrica/status/1696569933080211835?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 29, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p>But no,ruins the narrative, must focus on the USA being the imperialist oppressor....</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 30 Aug 2023 19:18:28 +0000 artappraiser comment 327450 at http://dagblog.com Takedown of bland LGBTQ http://dagblog.com/comment/327445#comment-327445 <a id="comment-327445"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/democrats-need-marie-gluesenkamp-perez-35915">Democrats need Marie Gluesenkamp Perez</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Takedown of bland LGBTQ posturing? </p> <p>(with some appreciated takedowns of persistent myths) </p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">‘I Have Something to Tell You’ by <a href="https://twitter.com/Chasten?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chasten</a> provides a blueprint for an LGBTQ politics whose only challenge to American empire and capitalism is that our most oppressive institutions should be queer-affirming.<br /><br /> by <a href="https://twitter.com/NairYasmin?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NairYasmin</a> <a href="https://t.co/97fkaroE35">https://t.co/97fkaroE35</a></p> — Current Affairs (@curaffairs) <a href="https://twitter.com/curaffairs/status/1696224627717194162?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 28, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Wed, 30 Aug 2023 07:10:13 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 327445 at http://dagblog.com Yglesias on the tendency of a http://dagblog.com/comment/327346#comment-327346 <a id="comment-327346"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/democrats-need-marie-gluesenkamp-perez-35915">Democrats need Marie Gluesenkamp Perez</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Yglesias on the tendency of a chunk of the progressive left to see some issues as outside the realm of debate and compromise. It's this inflexible stridency that gives them the air of religious fanatics. (Repubs, of course, have their own fanaticism, i.e. Trump as messiah.) <a href="https://t.co/ehQvZgqHFQ">https://t.co/ehQvZgqHFQ</a></p> — Carl (@HistoryBoomer) <a href="https://twitter.com/HistoryBoomer/status/1693640069498683892?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 21, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">The big divide in contemporary progressive politics — is there some set of identity-linked issues that are so significant as to be beyond the scope of compromise and normal politics, or is it in some sense all just on the table as usual? <a href="https://t.co/WGayODpCLq">https://t.co/WGayODpCLq</a></p> — Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1693577178854592950?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 21, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Mon, 21 Aug 2023 19:57:08 +0000 artappraiser comment 327346 at http://dagblog.com excerpt:  http://dagblog.com/comment/327283#comment-327283 <a id="comment-327283"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/democrats-need-marie-gluesenkamp-perez-35915">Democrats need Marie Gluesenkamp Perez</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>excerpt: </p> <blockquote> <p>[...] I also think she — and her colleagues Jared Golden and Mary Peltola, among the younger cohort of House Blue Dogs — are important for Democrats’ long-term prospects in the Senate. To an extent, you can take or leave these R+4 House seats, but with the current Senate map, Democrats <em>have to</em> win in Republican-leaning states to get a majority. The current Democratic majority relies on deeply endangered legacy incumbents Sherrod Brown, Jon Tester, and Joe Manchin. Those guys won’t be around forever. And because the average state is a lot whiter, more rural, and less educated than the country as a whole, the party needs to develop new models of what it looks like to be a Democrat in a state that is whiter, more rural, and less educated than the national average.</p> <p>I don’t think there’s a magic formula </p> <p>for winning in red-leaning states and districts.</p> <p>But I do feel pretty confident that it’s not just vibes and persona. Vibes count. Persona counts. But you also need to clearly differentiate yourself policy-wise from a normal Democrat. So I don’t think it’s surprising that Gluesenkamp Perez has taken some votes that have made liberals angry, nor do I think it’s problematic that liberals have expressed that anger. Her efforts to differentiate herself work better if people notice.</p> <p>That said, Slate’s recent article titled <a href="https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/08/marie-gluesenkamp-perez-washington-congresswoman-sold-out-democrats.html" rel="" style="text-decoration: none;">“With Democrats Like Marie Gluesenkamp Perez, Who Needs Republicans?” </a>really bothered me for three significant reasons:</p> <ul><li> <p>The headline suggests that left-wing people should be <em>indifferent</em> as to whether she is defeated by a Republican, which is wrong.</p> </li> <li> <p>The body of the article is, I think, wrong on the merits about student loan issues.</p> </li> <li> <p>The subhead of the article is “a Washington congresswoman campaigned on pro-choice and anti-corporate policies. First year on the job, she’s nothing like her backers expected.” This implies, falsely, that she has betrayed her former pro-choice and populist stances.</p> </li> </ul><p>I think it’s beneficial for both sides of these arguments to debate on the merits. Gluesenkamp Perez voted to <a href="https://www.slowboring.com/p/why-im-worried-about-dcs-criminal" rel="" style="text-decoration: none;">block the D.C. criminal code rewrite</a>, for example, which I think is no-brainer politics for her. But it’s genuinely true that she broke with anti-incarceration activists on this topic, and they ought to say so and explain why they think she’s wrong. But telling people she’s not pro-choice when she is because you’re mad about student loans generates confusion.</p> <p>The case against Marie Gluesenkamp Perez</p> <p><span style="font-size:13px">Here, per Alexander Sammon, is the case against Marie Glusenkamp Perez: [....]</span></p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Tue, 15 Aug 2023 18:36:49 +0000 artappraiser comment 327283 at http://dagblog.com