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‘People are sick and tired’:

artappraiser — Sat, 21 Oct 2023 23:59:29 +0000

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‘People are sick and tired’: the man challenging far-right extremist Lauren Boebert https://t.co/Imsbkr6WXM #USpolitics pic.twitter.com/AZBaxdtDdG
— R Saddler (@Politics_PR) October 21, 2023

[....] Boebert is not the only member of Congress Frisch identifies as a purveyor of what the Minnesota congressman Dean Phillips – a high-school friend of Frisch – calls “angertainment”: lucrative playing of the partisan angles in Congress, on social media and on network TV.

“When I looked at the data a couple of years ago,” Frisch says, “I saw that Marjorie Taylor Greene, Jim Jordan, Matt Gaetz, Paul Gosar and Andy Biggs are all kind of a part of that Republican chaos crowd, and I would put [Ilhan] Omar and [Rashida] Tlaib [leftwing Democrats from Minnesota and Michigan] on the other side.

“They all have safe seats. A billion dollars against them is not going to change the outcome. But I noticed that in 2020, Boebert only won by five points … and so we realised that of all these ‘brand name’ representatives, Lauren Boebert is probably the only person that has any chance and a good chance now of losing.

“I thought, ‘This could turn into a big deal.’ And obviously, it’s turned into a big deal.”

Frisch has attracted national attention. But the same pre-Beetlejuice poll that put him up 50-48 also said 40% of district voters felt they did not “know” him.

Therefore, while Boebert plays to the cameras in Washington – Frisch hits her for having a “mini television studio in her office, where there are supposed to be benches for constituents to sit before they actually have a chance to talk to the congresswoman” – her opponent continues to tour the battleground.

“The issues that we face here are a lot more in common with rural Florida, rural Pennsylvania, than with Denver and Boulder and Colorado Springs,” he says. “And I’m just very focused on how small-town America and rural America and working-class America, especially like in Pueblo, which is a very blue-collar working-class town in the district, how that whole group has kind of been left behind. And I know it’s pretty easy to call it a rural-urban divide, but it’s there. I feel it.

“I went in to this race eyes wide open. But the one true surprise was, regardless of political affiliation, regardless of political views, left, right or center, everyone in CD3 is frustrated with kind of the urban-centric conversation that is happening at the state level and a little bit at the national level … there is this resentment about how urban-centric the Democratic party has become.”

Colorado district three tilts conservative but Frisch sees a “very libertarian” conservatism which he, an aspirant “Blue Dog” or “Problem Solvers” moderate in Congress, can work with.

“It’s more of a ‘you be you’ party. They don’t want to really get involved with who you want to love, who you want to marry. They don’t want to get involved in who should be in a hospital room talking about reproductive rights, abortion. You know, ranchers and farmers are incredibly pragmatic. I’ve yet to meet a rancher or a farmer that’s un-pragmatic, because they won’t be in business for longer than eight days if they are.”

Boebert has been called many things but pragmatic is rarely one. Frisch attributes her previous wins to opportunism and a libertarianism increasingly not enough for voters turned off by her antics. He also hopes his second attempt to eject Boebert from Congress will capture national attention not just for the drama it might provide.

“I want to spend a lot more time trying to figure out how a lot more districts can have competitive races,” Frisch says, “because monopolies are bad in business and they’re bad in politics. I think 85% or 80% of the districts, they’re basically cooked in the primary. And to me, our primary system is ground zero for the dysfunctionality, the yelling and the screaming that’s going on around our country.” [....]

Of these "independent

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 14 Oct 2023 19:45:12 +0000

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Of these "independent thinkers" many of them didn't hear Trump praise Hezbollah or tune into Biden's latest policy speech. Often they're as much about pre:planned ignorance vs a real thought-out response to current events and the state of our parties. Like the Palestinians have some responsibility to wade through the cesspool that rules them, so do Americans.

It's the last tweet of thread

artappraiser — Sat, 14 Oct 2023 18:32:54 +0000

In reply to How Do Americans Feel About Politics? ‘Disgust Isn’t a Strong Enough Word’

It's the last tweet of thread of 3 that makes clear why this is applicable to the thread here

Truly wild passage. So much of modern elite progressivism involves believing in a kind of magic: normal human expressions of emotionality or rationality are like spells cast on behalf of some invisible system which is so evil that opposing it blots out any other moral obligation. pic.twitter.com/OcB4S2Ge2w
— Oliver Traldi (@olivertraldi) October 14, 2023

It is a small step from this to the sort of self-imposed authoritarianism of wokeness. Once every little action, no matter how anodyne or even prima facie good, is susceptible to analysis in terms of whether it helps or hurts a "system", you start watching yourself constantly.
— Oliver Traldi (@olivertraldi) October 14, 2023

But this is also in a way just another form of simple American polarization, the idea that one side is always right, the other side is always wrong, and one must police oneself to ensure one doesn't cross party lines.
— Oliver Traldi (@olivertraldi) October 14, 2023

this is one good reply

artappraiser — Sat, 14 Oct 2023 16:43:57 +0000

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this is one good reply

What do you think we’ve been doing in California for the past two years?
— OakSyder (@OakSyder) October 14, 2023

I like this one too

I have to, it's coming from my offspring.
— nina (@theothernina) October 14, 2023

Older and wiser now, he warns

artappraiser — Sat, 14 Oct 2023 16:03:52 +0000

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Older and wiser now, he warns:

I think American liberals should take leftists’ self-proclaimed hostility to us more seriously.
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) October 14, 2023

Note that there's a lotta replies!

GOP Rep. Troy Nehls on a

artappraiser — Fri, 13 Oct 2023 05:50:15 +0000

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GOP Rep. Troy Nehls on a message to his colleagues: "You want to talk about confusing the American people? They think this whole place is a circus up here and all of a sudden Jim Jordan is nominating Steve Scalise and we're voting for Jim Jordan. That's just utter chaos." pic.twitter.com/FhFsOXMXP7
— Manu Raju (@mkraju) October 12, 2023

Probably more accurate that

artappraiser — Tue, 10 Oct 2023 00:27:07 +0000

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Probably more accurate that two more political parties are needed . Centrist Democrats & Centrist Republicans (currently in hiding in fear of threats from MAGA) need to be free of extremists. https://t.co/lECIqxONUq
— Joyce Carol Oates (@JoyceCarolOates) October 9, 2023

Took her like a decade to catch on to my p.o.v., but something is better than nothing

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

artappraiser — Mon, 09 Oct 2023 21:41:22 +0000

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Robert F. Kennedy Jr. announces independent run for president, ending Democratic primary challenge to Biden

@CNN.com, Oct. 9, updated 5:42 pm

The thing @RepJeffries is

artappraiser — Sat, 07 Oct 2023 01:56:35 +0000

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The thing @RepJeffries is asking for to provide support for a speaker seems awfully reasonable. https://t.co/M1rOqUmppq pic.twitter.com/Pl7j9j0aKW
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) October 6, 2023

Republican Support Increases

artappraiser — Sat, 07 Oct 2023 01:45:58 +0000

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Republican Support Increases For Third Political Party, Forbes, Oct. 4

Veeery interesting.

"While 75% of self-identified independents support the creation of a third party, 58% of Republicans endorsed the idea, and 46% of Democrats." https://t.co/oWB5mHgR0H
— Peter Zeihan (@PeterZeihan) October 5, 2023

Here's my feeling about President Biden and the border. President Biden needs to do anything necessary to bring independents to the polls as blue voters in 2024. He needs to do these things, even if we don't like it or agree with it. We need to get over ourselves, if and when he…
— Jack Hopkins (@thejackhopkins) October 6, 2023

The “base” he’s referring to doesn’t win elections. Politics is about addition, not subtraction. The so-called base is shrinking. The people who decide House majorities - independents and traditional GOP - are entirely put off by Gaetz and his clown caucus. https://t.co/8ZKFvfGqBk
— Jason Emert (@JasonEmert) October 7, 2023