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Q, philosophers never act.

Rootman — Sat, 11 Sep 2010 19:39:06 +0000

Q, philosophers never act. Just talk themselves blind in their gelded caves of play-doh.

A little tangential but this

Elusive Trope — Sat, 11 Sep 2010 18:03:38 +0000

A little tangential but this makes me think I could use the National Lampoon technique to drive up the numbers of views on my post.

I don't think in general the

Elusive Trope — Sat, 11 Sep 2010 17:53:37 +0000

In reply to Living in media poverty, we

I don't think in general the outrage is because someone games the system and gets their fame. If no one is harmed in the process, all the more power to them. Rather the outrage comes from the method (such as mr preacher man) or from what they do once they get that fame.

But did he actually burn

quinn esq — Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:26:10 +0000

In reply to Living in media poverty, we

But did he actually burn it?

No. He did not.

Which is why no one remembers him.

As compared to this preacher guy.

Living in media poverty, we

Rootman — Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:21:28 +0000

In reply to oops i double posted - but

Living in media poverty, we rile up when some peasant hits gold. I am saying we are too outraged when a simpleton games the system. The problem is not that someone tapped into 15 mins of riches. It's the media poverty of the rest of us bottom feeders.

"I can threaten to burn a kitten and I will be on Johnny Carson tonight." Spengler wrote that a hundred years ago.

oops i double posted - but

Elusive Trope — Sat, 11 Sep 2010 01:41:58 +0000

In reply to A lot of the fuss about this

oops i double posted - but will edit this and take the opportunity to say that the MSM could have kept this whole thing from becoming a big deal - i don't think so. things are driven by viewership, where in the blogosphere the clicks are. as long as the MSM and the lesser Moderate Stream Media and Small Stream Media are driven by revenue, then these kind of things will become what this has become. It is up to us to work to counter the impact. Which means we can't to use your metaphor stand on the shore trying to change the tides.

I like the way you decribe

Elusive Trope — Sat, 11 Sep 2010 01:25:00 +0000

In reply to A lot of the fuss about this

I like the way you decribe the dynamics of this phenomenon. "we are rapt with fascination and resentment at the fool who picks up the crude minerals of spirit and cold dead earth and smashes them together to make some snot heard round the world" describes most of my co-workers this morning.

Sensationalism, whether in art, politics or religion, is what gets the focus of the public - look shiny round object! We are a nation where the Situation and Snooki of Jersey are the new famous (and wealthy) elite that allow the uber wealthy and powerful to continue on as usual.

We can strive to help expose from obscurity those artists who truly derserve our attention and patronage.

I agree with the duplicity.

Elusive Trope — Sat, 11 Sep 2010 01:13:14 +0000

In reply to your final sentence says it

I agree with the duplicity. There are situations where power dynamics between majorities and minorities justifies different treatment, but as usual a lot of people take the easy path and apply it across the board. If certain actions are necessary to undo the oppression of the patriarchy, then anything directed toward disempowering men is okay. Etc Etc.

I suppose we just have to keep our faith in the marketplace of ideas and keep creating compassionate work, whether art, blogs and personal encounters.

A lot of the fuss about this

Rootman — Sat, 11 Sep 2010 00:45:21 +0000

In reply to Koran Burning and Other Performance Art

A lot of the fuss about this Koran affair is awe at how this simple rube put fire and book together and made nuclear energy. Like Serrano puts art on the front page and we still talk about him when he's dead, even while true artists drudge for years to perfect their talent and, at best, make a short-lived wave in a small, elite pond of piss and semen.

As a people who passively wade in the media, or worse, try to command the tides from the shoreline, we are rapt with fascination and resentment at the fool who picks up the crude minerals of spirit and cold dead earth and smashes them together to make some snot heard round the world.

your final sentence says it

anna am — Sat, 11 Sep 2010 00:03:49 +0000

In reply to Koran Burning and Other Performance Art

your final sentence says it all.

but the truth is PC imposes duplicity on the people who observe it. sure it's okay to suspend christ in piss. that offends christians. who cares about them? they're a majority.

it's only when you get to a minority that the muliticulturalists cry foul -- which i don't mean in any way as a complaint.

i just mean there is this duplicity. but i personally don't see the great artistic and/or symbolic value in either the piss christ or the koran in flames. what i see, in the first case, is publicity hounding and sensationalism. and in the latter case i see the same thing. only difference is in the first case the hope is to forward a career. in the second the hope is to forward the cause of mass hatred and anger.

and that's a dangerous point our democracy allows us to approach.