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Your answer doesn't make a

CT Voter — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:51:31 +0000

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Your answer doesn't make a whole lot of sense, frankly.

I was posting about the practice of "consultants" or "aides" or whatever finding something out second hand, and then blabbing about it. If you think Bloomberg was behind this, well, alrighty then.

As for the crack about the Hillary fan club? Saying that something was handled badly = member of the Hillary fan club?

Thanks for the illumination into your thought processes.

Where do I begin? Your

dijamo — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 05:42:26 +0000

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Where do I begin? Your blathering has no basis in reality:

1. Paterson is unpopular. No duh. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out. He faces pressure already within the NY Democratic arty. If he is still unpopular and he decides to take a kamikaze run, he will lose a primary badly.

2. Paterson just endorsed the Democratic candidate for mayor, Bill Thompson against the sitting Republican mayor Bloomberg. Even after that, Bloomberg's response to Obama's public pressure for Paterson to step aside was supportive of Paterson and also Cuomo.

3. Find me an example of another president who publicly pressured a sitting Governor of his party not to run for election not due to criminal investigation or scandal. My sweet Hillary loving eyes found nada. And I actually looked. Obama's using the bully pulpit to be a bully, not a leader here. If he wants to try to be a leader of the dem party he might start with health care and EFCA and cap and trade and civil liberties. The Gov of NYS is pretty small potatoes in comparison.

4. New Yorkers asked Hillary to run, not the other way around. So she didn't insert herself into NYS politics, she was invited. And thanks to her, we didn't have a Senator Giuliani. Who asked Obama for his opinion about our Senator or Governor? NYers like making their own decisions and don't like being told what to do.

5. Where the fuck have I been? I've been in New York and I don't take kindly to ignorant asshats like you presuming that you (or the President) know what is better for my state than New Yorkers do.

Funny Desi :) I don't

dijamo — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 05:11:58 +0000

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Funny Desi :) I don't necessarily disagree with the message, just the messenger and the method of delivery.

That said, I see some parallels between the hyperventilating of the Obama admin about a primary for the Gov of NY and the calls for Hillary to exit the race before Obama won the nomination. Last time I checked this was a democracy and the voters should make their own choices for who represents them, not have those decisions made by the party machine.

Hi CT & Pete :) Like I said

dijamo — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 05:06:18 +0000

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Hi CT & Pete :) Like I said above, I think encouraging Paterson not to run is a good thing. I just don't think the President should be leading making that argument. And I totally see the Rahm influence on this going public. Subtlety is not his strong suit.

OMG. We agree? My

dijamo — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 05:04:15 +0000

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OMG. We agree? My expression very closely resembles your avatar :)

Steve, you're a history buff

dijamo — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 04:47:10 +0000

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Steve, you're a history buff right? So try scrounging up some evidence of other presidents publicly advising a sitting governor not to run for election. I'd bet anything if it has happened before, it was due to political scandal, criminal charges ala Blago etc. David Paterson isn't criminal, he's just unpopular. It is beneath the office of the Presidency to insert himself here.

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Orlando — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 04:14:02 +0000

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Is Obama, as President, not

CrazyAte — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 04:11:23 +0000

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Is Obama, as President, not considered to a large extent, to be the head of the Democratic party? I honestly thought this was the standard for the party in power.

Does a governor's race generally involve support from other politicans at all levels and the support of their respective national parties or are local politics narrowly fueled by the locals?

I'm Welch (not like those

Don Key — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 03:33:59 +0000

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I'm Welch (not like those thievin' Welsh).

CT: I am surprised that you

LowlyWorm — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 03:33:41 +0000

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CT: I am surprised that you are being so naive. Bloomberg needs Paterson out of his way in more ways than one. Remember that Bloomberg is in some ways more powerful than the Governor of NY. Bloomberg cannot work with or tolerate Paterson. Paterson and his staff are incompetent and dangerous. There's more here than meets the eye. Rudy Tooty is working the crowd in the background. And BTW, for the Hillary fan club, if you don't think the President has discussed this with her, then you are as dumb as you act.
Paterson is toast and the WH needs to make sure of it. Thems politics babies.