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No. "But the House's top

eds — Sat, 16 May 2009 03:17:34 +0000

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No.

"But the House's top Democrat, speaking at a news conference in the Capitol, was unequivocal about a CIA briefing she received in the fall of 2002.

"We were told that waterboarding was not being used," the speaker said. "That's the only mention, that they were not using it. And we now know that earlier they were." "

The article says nothing about some 2003 discussion re Pelosi.

If that is your best

eds — Sat, 16 May 2009 03:11:37 +0000

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If that is your best evidence, you have no basis for saying that she lied or misled anyone with a working brain.

Are you trying to do a parody

eds — Sat, 16 May 2009 01:40:52 +0000

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Are you trying to do a parody of the "Bush lied [about Iraq]" theme from 5-6 years ago?

It's pretty bad, gotta work on something there...

"second hand knowledge

eds — Sat, 16 May 2009 01:35:31 +0000

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"second hand knowledge "

Nope. Still lying, huh! And the context of that quote is re her actual briefings. Of course she found out SOMETIME.

Do you even know what that person "her aide" told her when she was no longer the Ranking Member and thus no longer privy to briefing details?

This is blackmail, and it's

AnswerFrog — Thu, 14 May 2009 23:02:46 +0000

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This is blackmail, and it's shameful and wrong.

I see, since I am a member of

1849 — Thu, 14 May 2009 21:21:24 +0000

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I see, since I am a member of TPM cafe, I must also read D-Kos religiously and I must share the every liberal opinion espoused on other site? Again I am being (mis)under-estimated but I always have been. That's cool because it gives me a chance to disabuse others of what they think they know what I think and what I am going to do.

I simply asked a question which remains unanswered.

Thanks, Bruce (always the

Don Key — Thu, 14 May 2009 21:14:18 +0000

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Thanks, Bruce (always the voice of reason). I had missed AA’s comment but I think it’s important. I read you, AA and Dijamo as calling for fairness and impartiality (non-partisanship) if we’re going to restore the checks on government.

I believe the limited and perhaps misleading briefings given by the Bush admin and agencies were improper anyway. But even given the admin’s obfuscations, if Speaker Pelosi and others claim they had no idea what was going on whle serving as Intel Committee members then they are admitting dereliction of their responsibilities.

I understand what you mean when you say that Pelosi is a garden-variety politician and someone on the periphery of this issue. I can't recall a politician who could not spin like a top. But I’d emphasize that in one respect she is anything but that.

After serving on the Intel Committee and after denying any knowledge of the abuses and after becoming Speaker of the House, she thwarted investigations into these abuses. That is what makes her dissembling so very suspect. It begins to look like obstruction, even though in politics it seems lines are never clear.

If anything, she could have recused herself from deciding whether investigations (impeachment or otherwise) should have gone forward, instead of pre-emptively blocking them. Of course, that doesn’t change the fact that the whole thing is a longstanding ploy to blackmail the Dems from going forward and digging too deep. But their bluff should be called.

You can, or you cannot

bluemeanie — Thu, 14 May 2009 21:05:50 +0000

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You can, or you cannot simplify the world based on someone's party membership?

Saw that - thanks! She

dijamo — Thu, 14 May 2009 20:50:28 +0000

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Saw that - thanks! She finally admitted the truth of what this whole post was about if I read it correctly. She was advised by her staff person in 2003 (at the same time as Harman) that waterboarding was actually used.

I'd be saying take the

dijamo — Thu, 14 May 2009 20:47:32 +0000

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I'd be saying take the toothpick out of your eye before you go after the guy with a two by four in his actually.