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M and H are quite far apart

dijamo — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:42:46 +0000

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M and H are quite far apart on the Voy-A-Jay QWERTY board so me thinks your dijaho excuse is suspect. Two kicks to the tenders are coming your way.

Good one on the clap clap

dijamo — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:17:44 +0000

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Good one on the clap clap point point with the different finger. I could have used that a couple of weeks ago. Dang it! And I think you are providing fodder for the conspiracy theorists who thought dija & mina mo were one and the same because I used the Whitty Hutton hell to the no reference last week.

But I digress - it's not about whether someone else calls you a real democrat or a republican or what ever the eff. You can't let other people define who you are. It's in you PO! (sorry I can't get Kung Fu Panda out my head)

As you know I came to the light with Obama as the dem candidate when we were watching family guy on Tuesday night and they were like OH NO! OH NO! OH NO! And then the big Kool Aid pitcher crashed through the wall and said OH YEAH! That's when I said oh snap - this is real.

Then when we went to see Kung Fu Panda, Master said yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery but today is a gift which is why they call it the Present. You know you are junkie when everything you hear is filtered through the prism of the campaign. So today is a present and we can hold hostilities and resentments or move forward in a positive direction. So I do hope you'll try to unity kool-aid. It's not that bad and I can guarantee it's a hell of a lot better than McCain-ade.

PS. If you ever text me and call me dija-ho again I will kick you in your tenders :) Have a nice day!

...and now for a fuller

dijamo — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:40:41 +0000

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...and now for a fuller response. To continue on your first question of racism vs sexism, I think it's fair to say everyone condemns the racist elements against Obama. If someone had asked McCain a a rally How do we beat the N****, something tells me the media backlash andoutrage would have been stunning and immediate. But because she said how do we beat the bitch, it is treated like a joke and laughed off as an excellent question. What was the democratic party's response? Silence. THAT is appalling to me as a democrat because we are the party of respecting diversity and each other. We stand against bigotry in all it's forms. For the democratic party to not stand up and defend their own was shameful.

I am not sold on the idea of a Clinton VP, but it's Obama's choice to make and Clinton's choice to accept or decline if he does make the offer. I for one do not want to see a repeat of the Cheney VP as a fourth branch of government, but of course Obama is no GWB who loves to campaign but is so lasy and uninterested in actually govering that he cedes all power to Cheney and his neo-con cabal.

If Obama does decide on a poltical marriage of convenience with Hillary, I am not sure if the trust is there or can be rebuilt between the two camps. Can entrust her with important work without fearing she may sabotage his work or exert more influence than he granted her? Does he fear the world looking at him as a puppet presidency if Hillary does have an impact on policy? If she's not entrusted with a fairly substantive role as VP, why would she even want it? She can have more influence in the Senate or travelling the world for philanthropy or having a significant cabinet post where she can have real authority.

And finally for Bill, I'm not going to go into how unfairly he was treated in this campaign particularly in SC because I don't think that will be helpful. I will say he fought hard for Hillary. I'm not really sure Obama wants Bill to shut his trap in the campaign. That didn't work out to well for Gore. Bill's a valuable asset and he has done much good for this country during his presidency and around the world post-presidency. That's all I've got to say about that.

Rec'd. We've disagreed on

eastside93 — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 02:31:03 +0000

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Rec'd.

We've disagreed on here before, but that was HRC vs. BHO stuff, which is a dead horse now. Yours is a very sensible post. The only thing is that, currently, I fear that 20% is a lowball figure. That, of course, only amplifies your original point.

We have to figure out some way of reaching the undecideds, and as good as the Obama campaign has been, I think those of us who have been politically active have to do work at the grass-roots level too. I posted a blog a week or so ago here about talking to people who don't like Obama. I'm glad to incorporate the urgency your post demonstrates.

I've just discovered this

ViaTerra — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:48:57 +0000

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I've just discovered this whole new side of Talking Points Memo. I never clicked on TPMCafe before. So let me just say, this is fabulous!

Dijamo, I was also a Clinton supporter. I've consistently liked both candidates though. Your take on this is good. We all have to go after all the voters. The general is going to be great fun, I think.

You have trouble with the

anneeliz — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:49:23 +0000

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You have trouble with the effin html in the same way I have trouble figuring out how to drive back and forth without using any gas at all. In other words html in the posts and gas-free Subaru driving--it's a beautiful, but impossible dream.

Here, here. Glad to be on the

anneeliz — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:47:13 +0000

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Here, here. Glad to be on the same team. Thanks to your good advice for both sides.

This looks like a great post

The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:45:24 +0000

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This looks like a great post and an interesting discussion that I'm looking forward to reading tonight, after work.

But right now, I just wanted to let you know I'm too busy laughing (in a "been there" kind of way) at your headline to engage in serious discussion.

Phoebes - thanks for the

dijamo — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:48:26 +0000

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Phoebes - thanks for the gracious welcome! You always a fierce advocate for your candidate and I always respected your viewpoint no matter how much we may have disagreed on a particular topic. In fact, I've never had to say to you GFY (although I'd have to check my history to make sure)! So it is possible to disagree without being disagreeable. I look forward to fighting on the same team :)

Great post, and many great

Phoebe Fay — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:10:01 +0000

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Great post, and many great responses.

I just want to add that I am thrilled to finally be fighting on the same side with you, dijamo. We went back and forth a fair bit on these boards, and I have to say you, like Hillary, are a formidable opponent!

I admire your ability to argue your points fairly and tenaciously, and I am delighted to see those laser-sharp skills turned on McCain. I quite agree, we need to keep up the heat and not take any votes for granted. There's simply too much at stake.