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There was a European movie a

flavius — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:54:46 +0000

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There was a European movie a couple of years ago which follows a guy whose own goal costs his team an important match.

I don't recommend it. I do recommend the early 1960s movie about Rugby: This Sporting Life.

In general

flavius — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:49:23 +0000

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In general

Anything can happen, a carom,

Jon Wisby — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:28:24 +0000

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Anything can happen, a carom, off a loose beach ball on the pitch, into goal cost Liverpool points this season. The authors words are a false equivalence.

I would be interested in

clearthinker — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 07:39:29 +0000

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I would be interested in finding out exactly what your political background and experience is.

You make little sense. People don't vote for their Senator based on their President.

Those existed and showed that

clearthinker — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 07:36:56 +0000

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Those existed and showed that about 22% of Dems would vote for Brown.

Of course, people can argue like that argue here: when you don't like the results of a poll, you degrade the polling organization.

Rassmusen has had some terrible results in the Presidential election (with scrutiny on methodologies), but they were on track here.

Again, the state has to wake up to the fact that there's an issue and call for the national organization. The national party can't come in with strong armed tactics or it won't have the state's support and ground coverage in the national election.

I agree that Coakley is a

CharlesBrown — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 07:09:43 +0000

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I agree that Coakley is a terrible campaigner, but don't forget that she ran in the bluest of the blue States for a chair that Ted Kennedy has held for decades. Just my opinion but factoring out everything else, even an inarticulate defective reject with a D attached to his name would have been able to win the election in Mass., an opinion obviously shared with the DSCC. They just made a grave error in assuming that voters would tune out Obama's own track record.

But feel free to entertain your fantasy, and here's hoping that Obama will agree with you for November and 2012. Cheers.

Like telling the nation that

CharlesBrown — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 06:52:49 +0000

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Like telling the nation that HCR will be done this year and expect Congress to figure the rest out?

Agreed. Bringing in Plouffe

CharlesBrown — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 06:45:12 +0000

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Agreed. Bringing in Plouffe is not going to rectify his exposed lack of leadership.

Though Plouffe is a good campaigner as he proved so in 2008, the landscape is different this time around. I have no doubt that the election in November will be more about Obama than about the candidates, and this time around, the true Obama is clearly exposed. Would even Plouffe be able to overcome this. I don't think so.

If a campaign is not facing

AJM — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 06:42:17 +0000

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If a campaign is not facing reality an outside tracking poll could serve as a wake up call.

It seems right to me in any

flavius — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 06:17:55 +0000

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It seems right to me in any context. That doesn't mean shedding tears over poor dead Adolph(of Josef). But otherwise it's time to move on.