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I have posted this before to

NobleCommentDecider — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:15:27 +0000

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I have posted this before to the sound of crickets, but apparently folks in the Bush White House were put on anti-anthrax CIPRO starting the day of and just after the 9/11 attacks.

The first anthrax letter was not mailed until two weeks later.

I have never seen an official confirmation or explanation on this, though the Judicial Watch page on the matter is still on the internet:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/1967.shtml

The interview I link above from a German language interview of a former German gov't official is worth a read, he describes his sincere skepticism of the official story on the WTC attacks, which were 'solved' and pinned on swarthy suspects (all dead) within a mere 48 hours.

Saw this on Raw Story just

wendy davis — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 18:33:51 +0000

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Saw this on Raw Story just now, Oleeb. Thought you might want to blog it:

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Thousands_held_without_trial_in_Ira_09132010.html

A new Amnesty Intl. report on abuse of prisoners in Iraq and no trials for loads of them.

How's it working out so far in Iraq?

Yup . . . ~OGD~

OldenGoldenDecoy — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 04:09:50 +0000

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Yup . . .

~OGD~

Well 9/11 was 'uncommon'. For

NobleCommentDecider — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 03:08:46 +0000

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Well 9/11 was 'uncommon'. For anyone who hasn't read it, the interview with former top German government Minister, Andreas Von Buelow from 2002:

...Are the explanations plausible? This time, this is not the case at all.....There are 26 intelligence services in the U.S.A. with a budget of $30 billion.....which were not able to prevent the attacks. In fact, they didn't even have an inkling they would happen. For 60 decisive minutes, the military and intelligence agencies let the fighter planes stay on the ground, 48 hours later, however, the FBI presented a list of suicide attackers. Within ten days, it emerged that seven of them were still alive...Atta and..assailants who, in their preparations, leave tracks behind them like a herd of stampeding elephants? They made payments with credit cards with their own names; they reported to their flight instructors with their own names. They left behind rented cars with flight manuals in Arabic for jumbo jets.......Clues were left like behind like in a child's game of hide-and-seek, which were to be followed!...With the help of the horrifying attacks, the Western mass democracies were subjected to brainwashing. The enemy image of anti-communism doesn't work any more; it is to be replaced by peoples of Islamic belief....

Former German Minister rejects theory of 9/11 attacks link

ok

bslev — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 02:09:23 +0000

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This is the best commentary

wvbiker — Sun, 12 Sep 2010 23:14:53 +0000

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This is the best commentary on 9/11 I have read.

Well done Oleeb, captures my own thoughts well.

The media seems to sorely lack peopole of real world experience. Because of the use of lie detectors (fear of someone lying to them that they can't detect is lying-end result is either goody two shoes or pathological liars that manipulate the goody two shoes) in hiring for any sensitive positions both within federal government and out, we have folks who have not tasted the real world outside the confines of their suburbia and TVs.

Combine them with the insulated moneyed elite running the media, we get zero leadership.

Boy am I glad I live in West Virginia where I have the best chance of making it through the inevitables.

'The elements that really did

wendy davis — Sun, 12 Sep 2010 22:21:47 +0000

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'The elements that really did change have been buried and have become difficult to locate in the debris.'

Pure poetry, moat; it went right to the bones inside my body. Thank you for the metaphor.

Now now now ... Bruise

OldenGoldenDecoy — Sun, 12 Sep 2010 22:15:53 +0000

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Now now now ... Bruise Easily. . .

Oh my my my ... It's the worn trope "Go fuck yourself" ... Eh? Pffft...

I know you are part of the "in" set in this place. one of the "othering" gang.

You don't know shit from shinola nor your ass from your elbow if you really believe that I'm part of the "in" set...

And that leads me to believe that you presume I agree with Curt's bullshit too. But, you'd be totally out to lunch once again.

See, you'd be really surprised how you and I are very similar in background. Other than the age difference, and that you're there in the city and I'm 2460 miles to the west. Like you, I'm a crotchety son of a bitch and a 30 year ex-union steward and negotiator. Although only married once for 42 years, she's a special ed teacher for 40 years and can put up with anything...

So if you don't like any of this you can just jam that sock further down your piehole...

Makes not a bit of difference to me what you think.

~OGD~

Thanks for writing this

moat — Sun, 12 Sep 2010 20:28:34 +0000

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Thanks for writing this piece, oleeb.

As a New Yorker, I experienced (and still experience) the cowardice and opportunism you speak of as a denigration of the importance of what had happened.

The elements that really did change have been buried and have become difficult to locate in the debris.

Hard to see how pointing out

oleeb — Sun, 12 Sep 2010 18:28:34 +0000

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Hard to see how pointing out the consequences of a failure to act the economy will suffer is equivalent to telling people that if they don't surrender their liberty a terrorist will kill them, their families and/or their countrymen. If the former is using fear to push a policy through then it is a form of fear that isn't analagous to what our government has done in response to 9/11 as far as I'm concerned. I think it's apples and oranges.