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the pivotal shift that has

Resistance — Tue, 06 Jul 2010 12:36:01 +0000

the pivotal shift that has occurred

There are events in history of such momentous worth.

When Team Obama bailed out the Banker class; as if trickle down would save America.

He should have watered the roots first, then both the roots and the and the banker class would have grown together.

Now that the Banker class has been made whole, it finds life is great, and only hears reports of suffering, not having to feel the pain of the suffering first hand. It's a LIE to assume they feel your pain. THEY really feel the pain?

"from slavery/exploitation to immigrant enfranchisement."

immigrant enfranchisement? Is that a new name for an old way of slavery/exploitation?

Some rich will always exploit. That's why they're RICH.

Btw, one of the places the

wwstaebler — Mon, 05 Jul 2010 18:09:50 +0000

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Btw, one of the places the Declaration of Independence is read aloud, every year, is here:

http://www.middletonplace.org/
the former home of Arthur Middleton, one of the signers.

When one sees what Middleton, as a secure, privileged landowner, was willing to risk for the sake of an independent America (if not for his slaves) it is truly mind-boggling.

As I mentioned on Ramona's blog, the most moving event at the Middleton celebration of the 4th is the swearing-in ceremony for immigrants who are becoming American citizens. That it takes place on a South Carolina plantation demonstrates the pivotal shift that has occurred from slavery/exploitation to immigrant enfranchisement.

Essential read, Oleeb. Thank

wwstaebler — Mon, 05 Jul 2010 17:35:21 +0000

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Essential read, Oleeb. Thank you.
Saddening to see that we have done to ourselves (as well as to others) what we rebelled against at our beginnings.

This was a great read, Oleeb.

AdAbsurdum — Mon, 05 Jul 2010 02:49:21 +0000

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This was a great read, Oleeb. The most important thing this revolution eventually brought to those who fought for it, or at least the white male ones ones then, was representation to cement the legitimacy of government, something that was sorely lacking in the state of affairs with Britain then.

Later, this Revolution crystallized into a system of representation which gave voice to the majority, but also placed checks for the rights of the smaller states from the larger states, from majorities over geographic minorities. Revolution culminated in a Constitution which created a Senate to give counterbalancing leverage to smaller states. We became more than a Democracy; we became a Republic, and how annoying it is. It allows Ben Nelson's state with a miniscule population to place checks on the millions in the larger states, but there is a certain genious to this revolutionary idea by the founders. These revolutionaries sought to make government by the people, yet they also wanted their Revolution to endure the fickle passions of the masses of the people. They allowed for change, but they placed many frustrating roadblocks. In a way, they wanted their Revolution to be the last as they found that it reconciled contradicting necessities, majority rule without the tyranny of the majority, and they drafted a Constitution that compromised even with the evil of slavery because they viewed unity and consensus as the greater good, and they bequethed us with the obligation to perfect this. We love them for the power their revolution has given us, but we sometimes want to kick their pasty, enlightened eighteenth century behinds for not always letting us have our way as easily as we would wish.

I find our sometimes contentious dialogue enrichening, at least to me. Happy Independence Day, Oleeb, and always feel free to rip me a new one. We all need it at times.

Why is it in reading this I

thepeoplechoose — Sun, 04 Jul 2010 22:23:46 +0000

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Why is it in reading this I have a sense of deja vu?

My sense we've passed this way before is exceeded only by my fear of walking past the graveyard of history. When we forget or don't know or are denied access to the truth of the past or even of the present we are sure to pay a heavy price for our negligence. I have a sense of dread we are growing ever closer to making a big installment to cover this seemingly ineveitable cost. This is particularly worriesome because we seem to have run up an awfully big tab.

A good Fourth of July to you,

wendy davis — Sun, 04 Jul 2010 14:07:23 +0000

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A good Fourth of July to you, Oleeb.
Nice reading.