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There is no humane reason.

thepeoplechoose — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 22:16:29 +0000

There is no humane reason. There is a big financial reason though.

Again on a narrow, narrow

Overreach THIS! — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 19:18:46 +0000

Again on a narrow, narrow point: Cheney was a far, far right vote in the House. He was delighted, and he has said this, that the Press didn't check his reactionary Congressional voting record when he was up for Veep.

This is the same press, of course, that did not check their ludicrous disinformation about Iraq a few years later.

Well, just a narrow, narrow

Overreach THIS! — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 19:14:12 +0000

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Well, just a narrow, narrow point:

The Iraq war was utterly stupid, and as for me, you need to go casting about for narrow reasons why it couldn't have been supported. It was a preposterous thing.

I could digress and say they only thing worse than the crazed decision was the monumentally incompetent execution of it, but that's not the point here.

Have you ever read "A Bright

brewmn61 — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 17:44:26 +0000

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Have you ever read "A Bright Shining Lie?" Vietnam was basically lost by 1967. And we were there in full force (including our decimation of Cambodia and much of Laos) for eight more years. Kind of puts where we are in the Middle East in some perspective, doesn't it?

This is why I just couldn't get the "liberal hawk" support for Iraq. They assured us that it would be a quick, relatively painless decapitation of the Hussein dictatorship, and a thousand flowers of democracy would bloom in the Middle East. Well, anyone with any knowledge of history (which measn 95+% of Americans) knows war doesn't work that way.

You are right. Humanity

oleeb — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 17:00:32 +0000

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You are right. Humanity invests far too much in killing human beings. Nonetheless, the US is in a class of its own in this regard since our nation spends more on "defense" annually than all the other nations on earth combined. It can truly be said that the US obsession with militarism keeps the worldwide arms race at a fever pitch despite the fact there is no reason at all for our country or the others to spend anything like the amounts we spend on barbaric, counterproductive arms manufacturing and all the mlitarist things that go with it.

Ducky, I am now assured that

dickday — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 16:52:54 +0000

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Ducky, I am now assured that I have indeed led a wasted life.

You and some of my other buddies around here sure witnessed some real history.

Great post, and a great

Joe Wood — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 09:32:27 +0000

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Great post, and a great source.

"Here is the true meaning and value of compassion and nonviolence when it helps us to see the enemy's point of view, to hear his questions, to know his assessment of ourselves. For from his view we may indeed see the basic weaknesses of our own condition, and if we are mature, we may learn and grow and profit from the wisdom of the brothers who are called the opposition."

Wow. That is wisdom.

Not just in the US, but

thepeoplechoose — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 08:22:39 +0000

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Not just in the US, but worldwide, we put an awful lot of effort and resources into killing each other. This begs the question are we really as smart as we think we are?

Wow! I am in awe. It must

oleeb — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 07:48:08 +0000

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Wow! I am in awe.

It must have been incredibly moving.

Wow! I am in awe. It must

oleeb — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 07:38:13 +0000

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Wow! I am in awe.

It must have been incredibly moving.