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As predicted , the first

FASC Concept — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:46:37 +0000

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As predicted , the first stages of the Health Care Bill was passed. Why, you ask ? It is because people wish to be seen for their in put of a view and not unite. What is lost is respect with in a concept of { Freedom Of Choice } to be a part of this system or not, with in this Health Care Force Pay Matrix.
What is offered by FASC Concepts is the Freedom Of Choice, because we feel it is unconstitutional to force pay into the failures of Health Care Insurance Companies and then Tax that money. As you can see our elected officials are paying little attention to the public. As I reach out to my computer and I knock , knock, knock on the screen, and I say is there any body out there?
This Health Care issue keeps taking turns and twist that bewilder the mind in thoughts. This $100 trillion dollar system ,as it would seem, I am counting up to $ 8 trillion 682 billion Dollars so far. On guy emailed me and he is up to $27 Trillion dollars.
You see when Harry Reid added a extra ....almost, $2 Trillion dollars in a tax forum, this through my numbers off with the 1 to 3 year spread of taxes.
Lets show you this way seeing how I run out of fingers to count on and I do not feel like taking my shoes off.....
to get a $4 Trillion dollar tax spread, it is based at a 0.25% up to 4 years.
To be able to see the amount taxed in one year as a whole at 50% is around $8.2 Trillion to $8.8 Trillion, please remember according to Government Officials this is to be a spread tax, 3 to 10 years.. There is over 10 thousand companies I have not even got to yet. So lets take this $ 8 trillion 682 billion Dollars , reach into your mind and say ,1 to 3 to 10 years Tax against the Health Care System, then take this 10% tax against the almost $4 Trillion Dollars, your factor must be a multiplication. Then you will see this Tax factor as net value of that system. But of course Government Officials will not show the a net value of a system or that one company, this wold make it to easy for the People to follow the Tax Dollar.
Remember this tax dollar does not include the split petition of the tax forum of increases in other areas, in the name of Health Care Reform. This tax forum I, or we can have very little effect against.
As for theses hidden taxes, they are not hidden. They are built into a split petition. They are meant not to be seen, only revealed as the Progressive Capital Tax Forum works the system in order to not over burden the money system. What is lost is trust because Government Officials by considering the public slow witted and as for this Bill, I want to read the Law that is to represent the Bill. This is because one word has a directive and a code and a sentence can lead to a different truth in concept.
So now it begins, the Civil Rights Law Suits and Constitutional Suits. We are not talking just a few law suits we are talking thousands will be filed because of the Freedom Of Choice is taken away and a Tax against money that is not Government Officials Rights to Tax, the Health Care Money for Coverage.
Within our web site we suggested to build a Government Web Site that will show the People the monthly income of this Health Care Dollar and what the dollar is used for. But of Course this can not be allowed this would audit the IRS and Government System.

So, what do you wish to do ? Sit back and complain or unite your voice as one and state that ,{ We believe in the Freedom Of Choice to be a Part Of this Health Care System or not. } We intend to give life to hope to where there is none.
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"Whatever the inner workings

oleeb — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:10:52 +0000

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"Whatever the inner workings of Congress are--if you need healthcare, the thing is to get it passed, not to worry over procedure or graft, or politics of the sausagemaking."

This only works if you're getting healthcare and it doesn't work at all if you're not. In this bill we are not getting healthcare reform at all. We are getting a special interest bonanza for insurance companies in return for precious little healthcare.

It isn't as though the

oleeb — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:08:38 +0000

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It isn't as though the players aren't making a conscious decision for whom to play. They bear full responsibility for their betrayal of the common people.

Many people will die between

Libertine — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:46:08 +0000

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Many people will die between now and then Joe, even if this so-called reform is passed, because the insurance companies are still calling the shots. As long as deference is paid to them first and foremost they are calling the shots. Meanwhile while tens of thousands still die, while the corporations profit obscenely and the status quo is preserved, we can all sleep soundly knowing that this will 'save lives' when it eventually kicks in 4 years from now. Right? In what form will it be in by 2012? Who knows 4 years is an eternity for health insurers and PHrMA lobbyists to get congress to make the changes they want.

The argument over single

Joe Wood — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:37:17 +0000

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The argument over single payer in this bill has ceased.....

Maybe some day, but that discussion has happened for this bill. To not eat the cake because you really wanted a bigger slice is silly.

This is not a perfect fix. But if you are starving, you eat the damn thing.

But we're not getting

Libertine — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:33:43 +0000

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But we're not getting affordable health care (single payer) we are being told to buy insurance in the overpriced marketplace.

Feel free to do what you feel you must do as will I. The American people deserve single payer health care like what the rest of the industrialized world has...and being told that because of the deals Obama cut with corporations, and their republican lackeys, we aren't getting it infuriates me. So when I am told that this is such a good deal I will recoil like a rattlesnake and strike. I will not be tread on anymore by the powers to be, those being corporations and their bought and paid for politicos in DC, both the R and D flavors.

Don Corleone once said, "I

Joe Wood — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:13:23 +0000

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Don Corleone once said, "I don't care about things that don't affect me." While this is a hugely selfish and socially unresponsible statement, I do feel a sort of relation to this sentiment. Whatever the inner workings of Congress are--if you need healthcare, the thing is to get it passed, not to worry over procedure or graft, or politics of the sausagemaking. We have more IMMEDIATE needs.

If Massachusetts gets a brand new hospital thanks to Sen. Dodd, I could care less. I care if I have access and affordability to health care, so in twenty years I can see my kids graduate and get married, as opposed to spending my third Christmas in a coffin.

See the context here? See the stakes? For me, it is not the Capitol and it's inner sanctums and minions. It is whether I am going to be able to be healthy or not. Whether my kids will have a father that can play ball with them or not. Whether I will be alive or not.

If you are going to oppose any change that involves even the smallest improvements for people like me, all I can say is you must be living more comfortably with this system than people like me. I believe the people who should have say so are the ones at the heart of the matter; people who don't have any health care. People who already have health care can't appreciate what it's like to be broke all the time and no doctor, and to try and live healthy with a serious disease, which I happen to have.

For me, for my kids--this is personal.

I'd like to be alive in 20 years. But I have had no doctor for over a year. I can't afford those medicines I was on when I had insurance. At this rate, I don't see how I will be alive in 20 years--age 52. That's just not right, and it should supercede any issues people may have with this bill. If it helps me get health coverage, you should support it for MY sake.

When I started reading your

readytoblowagasket — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:05:57 +0000

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When I started reading your comment, destor, I began thinking about the executives who sit on nonprofit boards and successfully hold down the salaries of the nonprofit's staff.

Hey! Maybe that's an argument for converting to a nonprofit health care system!

I don't hate the player I do

Libertine — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:52:15 +0000

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I don't hate the player I do hate the game. The game is centrists (Obama, Clinton, Rahm et al) playing the left for suckers. They are more interested in playing nice with the conservatives and have nothing but scorn for the left. We have been repeatedly insulted by Rahm then taken for granted and written off by our president. How the hell are we supposed to react Joe? I, for one, am damn tired of turning the other cheek. Now he is telling us progressives that we must jump on board with the corporate giveaway, which he drafted with the conservatives, masquerading as reform or we progressives will doom his presidency? What is wrong with this picture?

But it works so well with

destor23 — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:51:11 +0000

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But it works so well with public companies. Just look how business executive serve on boards and curb pay for other business executives. Some have to save for months to by the new gulfstream!