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Ohyez

Bwakfat — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 04:39:29 +0000

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Ohyez

Stockholm Syndrome?

Resistance — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 02:51:11 +0000

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Stockholm Syndrome?

Blame the Left? That's

PseudoCyAnts — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 02:42:58 +0000

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Blame the Left?

That's like blaming a rube for getting cheated at a carnival midway, or getting angry at the ventriloquist's dummy for what was said, or criticising an imbecile for flunking out of medical school. Besides, even if it were the left's fault, blaming them is about as classy as cursing the deaf, or performing pantomime for the blind.

"The Obama campaign

Resistance — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 02:06:58 +0000

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"The Obama campaign downplayed McCain's fundraising figures Thursday, noting that Obama has more than 1.7 million donors and that,

unlike Obama, McCain is getting help from federal lobbyists.

The Wall Street Journal quoted Obama fundraisers as saying the Illinois senator was struggling to win over Clinton's donors, and it suggested his move to the center on certain policy issues has turned off the liberal-leaning, small-dollar donors that have made his fundraising so successful.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2008/07/11/obama-camp-disputes-accounts-of-sagging-donations/

The Man Who Made Obama
November 3, 2009, 9:45 AM
Finally, as campaign manager of Obama for America in early 2007, Plouffe was charged with building an underdog campaign for president from virtually nothing — no money, one office, five staff members, and a few dreams from one's father.

He told them, We have to beat Clinton. She has the establishment support, she has this huge system of money-raisers, so we must create an alternative network.

The grassroots, kept Obama in the race and as he was surpassing expectations.
Clinton was the hands on favorite, but the grassroots proved the pundits wrong.

Imagine the big money folks now recognizing this phenomena saying, “we must get on this train for fear we won’t have any control on the direction. Let us try to get some concessions from Obama first.”

Then Obama moved to the center as recommended by the big money donors, handlers, and corrupters.
AIG even contributing, and in return we saw how that paid off.

Without the grass roots effort supporting Obama, he’d have been a flash in the pan in the early primaries.

Clinton would have kept the big money donors in her camp except; the big money donors recognized the inertia of the Obama train.

Did Big money highjack the train, or did Obama sell out the grassroots?

What's more narcissistic than

bluebell — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 02:01:37 +0000

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What's more narcissistic than voting?

Yup, and at least after LBJ

bluebell — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 02:00:18 +0000

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Yup, and at least after LBJ made the wrong decision over Vietnam he had the grace to withdraw. I don't know if we've seen accountability in high office since. Man, this country is in trouble when this old anti-war protester is defending LBJ.

Whoever's fault it is, I find

destor23 — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 01:43:19 +0000

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Whoever's fault it is, I find myself most concerned with the continued result. Banks in crisis? Banks get money. Health care crisis? Pass a law requiring people to give money to health care companies. The money keeps ending up in the hands of giant companies and those who run them. That's a problem.

Oleeb, I agree with most of

tpmgary — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 00:54:06 +0000

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Oleeb, I agree with most of what Greenwald wrote about the ridiculousness of blaming the left.

Lind's article, not so much. That Obama is beholden to America's brand of market anarchy, well, yes, there's a lot of evidence to back that up.

As SF Curt points out, though, so too was Bush--maybe the lack of regulation that preceded Obama's term made it even harder for him to resist the power of industry.

Couldn't one argue that Obama is only a cautious minimalist with regard to the progressive movement, or the left, but to corporations and pro-business, he's anything but a minimalist?

The Left agrees that it's not

Overreach THIS! — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 00:33:28 +0000

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The Left agrees that it's not at fault, we know. The Center also wasn't at fault according to them, nor the White House, nor the state party, nor the Kennedys, nor Coakley's team.

Whatever group we're in, the first thing we know is that we were not at fault.

The explanation is only provided to support the pre-existing conclusion.

What conspiracy theory is

Overreach THIS! — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 00:26:47 +0000

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What conspiracy theory is supposedly true about Obama?

Enough with the riddles. What you saying he did or might have done. In plain English.