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You keep mistaking your

Jason Everett Miller — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 00:09:20 +0000

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You keep mistaking your opinions for "truth" which is why your crew has been so singularly ineffective at selling or implementing anything resembling progressive policies for more than 40 years now.

I would like to hear how calling people ignoramuses isn't condescending. The fact that you think you aren't says way more about you than it does about me.

With "friends" like you, the democratic party hardly needs republicans as the enemy.

I'm not being condescending.

oleeb — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:36:44 +0000

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I'm not being condescending. It's just that you are an ignoramus who doesn't know what he's talking about. Unable to comprehend or integrate the truth into your simpleton's world, you think that speaking the truth is condescending.

You have been incapable of

Jason Everett Miller — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:24:14 +0000

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You have been incapable of moving your party to be more liberal is what you are saying. Don't point to a failure to accomplish your goals as some huge conspiracy.

If liberals such as yourself weren't such condescending pricks all the time, you might make more converts and actually accomplish something worthwhile in this century.

Once again, you only show your own ignorance of history by ignoring those parts that don't suit your needs.

Wrong as usual. You know

oleeb — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 05:31:03 +0000

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Wrong as usual. You know nothing of history.

The left has been absent from our national politics for the last 40 years you nitwit. That has been the problem. It has been your pals the centrists who have been heckeld by the Republicans as liberals and leftists who have been losing and not with any honor at all. And you constantly bang the drum for even more of it.

Fred - You make some

MiddleClassBill — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:27:59 +0000

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Fred - You make some execellent points. I also think that you always need to carefully parse what Obama says as well as any other politician.

For Obama, he supports single payer as a theory. He supports it IF we were starting from a clean sheet of paper. But we're not. So single payer is off the table, at least in the short term.

As you pointed out, the left

Jason Everett Miller — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:40:01 +0000

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As you pointed out, the left has been losing with honor for forty years, so perhaps a change in tactics is in order.

"Medicare for All" has

Red Planet — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:32:27 +0000

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"Medicare for All" has exactly the right marketing ring to it.

And it has the extra, added benefit, that it works, providing high-quality health care to recipients, fighting every day to improve that quality and working to control costs at the same time.

All that with very, very low overhead.

Medicare for All is change I can believe in.

Perhaps this more succinct

oleeb — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 03:00:37 +0000

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Perhaps this more succinct version will do:

Healthcare as a right delayed, like justice delayed, is healthcare denied.

I fundamentally disagree with the premises of the "compromisers" who will bargain only with the healthcare for common people and never with anything that might disgruntle the wealthy or the powerful. I am tired of that sort of weak, rear guard action approach. We cannot do worse than what this approach has brought us over the past 40 years. We are far more likely to achieve real reform, universal coverage, and cost savings by working for what we are for instead of simply working for what we think we might get if we compromise enough with an opposition that gives nothing and will never relent in it's attempt to undermine what we are trying to do. It is, in short, a failed approach. I'd rahter lose with honor than win a victory that has no real meaning to common people and perpetuates most of the injustices we now deal with.

They did try. It was called

Jason Everett Miller — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 01:02:11 +0000

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They did try. It was called HR 676 and it was designed to ensure it would never pass. Perhaps the Medicare-for-All standard bearers needed a bit wider of a focus to be truly effective.

You're doing it again, and

Fred Moolten — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 00:30:39 +0000

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You're doing it again, and again it reflects badly on you.