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Considering they are the

The Reluctant Conspiracy Theorist — Sat, 05 Sep 2009 04:21:31 +0000

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Considering they are the WINNERS and are the MAJORITY, they're a little tightly wound aren't they Artimus 101? Not to worry, every once in a while you're bound to find one not frothing at the mouth. Have patience.

As a recent convert from

stillidealistic — Sat, 05 Sep 2009 02:40:37 +0000

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As a recent convert from repub to dem, let me say the the very idea of an uproar over the President of the United States speaking to school children is one of the saddest commentaries on the state of our country that I have ever heard.

What if the President were "visiting" the school...should parents be notified in advance so they could keep their children home on that day? What if it were the father of one of the children sharing his job? Should parents have the same option? What is happening here?

Apparently there is so little trust of our President that it boils down to this. Even on the day I felt the most disgust for President Bush, it never would have occurred to me to keep him from addressing my grandchildren's school room.

So, I find your POV pretty appalling, even though you have every right to have it.
So, yeah, this is pretty much appalling.

You could be right! So when

stillidealistic — Sat, 05 Sep 2009 02:04:25 +0000

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You could be right! So when are we going to get out the water canons and rubber bullets and get them back into their rooms? I've had enough to last the next 7+ years already!

Wow I try to give you an

Artimus101 — Sat, 05 Sep 2009 00:59:25 +0000

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Wow I try to give you an honest view of the other side and im belittled, my associations are called into question And I dont remember saying that I represented anyone other than myself. But I guess its easier to hide behind Obamas cloak of perfection. Just listen to yourself "Bush would just be another drunk in Texas" "For you to put the patina of not being quite so crazed as the people you are, in part, associating with is appalling" you've given in to hate your objectivity is clearly in questian as is you ability to conduct a civil discourse. You have become what you disgust.

With all due respect I must

oleeb — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 23:20:32 +0000

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With all due respect I must say hooey to your "concerns" which are misplaced, uninformed and foolish.

Nothing personal but please don't try to foist upon anyone the idea that having the President talk to kids about working hard in school is in ANY way a bad thing. Had Bush done the very same thing and parents had raised the same "concerns" of the looneys who are objecting to it, and who you are associating yourself with as right wing lite, they would have either been completely ignored by the media as extremists or called unpatriotic and disrespectful. I don't think it's unpatriotic, but it is disrespectful and stupid. For you to put the patina of not being quite so crazed as the people you are, in part, associating with is appalling. You apparently, like most Republicans, project quite clearly your fears. You believe that Obama will try to take some political/partisan advantage of these kids in the same manner that scumbags like Rove or cynical hacks like W might be expected to. But the difference is that Obama, for all his faults, is not a partisan hack and has some honor. He would never do anything like that. That you or anyone else would make the claim with a straight face that you fear he might behave in the manner of the Rove or Bush is simply absurd.

Of course it would have been a great deal more difficult for Bush to urge kids to do well in school since he was and remains a dolt very unlike Obama who was an excellent student and who, unlike Bush, worked very hard to get where he is in life. Everything Bush ever had was given to him. If his Dad hadn't kept baling him out all his life from one failure after another, Bush would just be another drunk in Texas. Obama also has enough respect for the office in which he serves that he would not debase it in that very right wing Republican manner. Bush had money, but no class. That's why he had Rove. Birds of a feather ya know.

It doesn't make me feel better to call the people who are in hysterics over this nonflap exactly hat they are. It makes me feel honest.

They are morons I am in

tmccarthy0 — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 23:14:31 +0000

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They are morons I am in complete agreement. I think they might also be crazy.

Hello I guess ill let you

Artimus101 — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 22:56:58 +0000

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Hello I guess ill let you know that im one of those right wing radical extremists that fill you all with so much pitty and disgust. I wont hurl insults your direction because I don’t know you and I imagine that you are probably decent people with differing political views than my own.

I would like to tell you why I have a problem with this. First let me state I have no problem with the President addressing school children as it has been done in the past. I do however feel that parents should have the right to make the choice of having their children attend.

The part of this debacle that frightens me was the choice of the administration to include lesson plans with the speech. This opens up an pandoras box of issues. If we let this white house set lesson plans around speeches to your children you can bet the next administration will do the same (here’s the part I play on your fear of republicans) Should it be a republican administration whats to say they wouldn’t use this access to our children for their own ends. Maybe by perhaps increasing the number of these speeches with included lesson plans to a monthly time frame. And if these lesson plans included things like having children read from speeches from great republicans like Cheney and Rove. I hope this gives you pause.

If it makes you feel better to make statements like "The only people who would make this objection are complete morons and, frankly, asshole right wing, racists" than please do so with pride, as I respect your right of free speech.

It was a national cheer when

GregorZap — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 20:45:04 +0000

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It was a national cheer when Dubya said that Obama was "Wanted Dead or Alive". It was also a lie. Dubya wanted Osama so he could cudgel the American people into doing his wishes out of fear. America wanted to be John Wayne and go kill the bad guy!

I agree with you Libertine

oleeb — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 20:41:37 +0000

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I agree with you Libertine except that I also agree that some of the Republicans are probably getting a bit fearful of the mobs they've created and which they continue to encourage. But, having said that, they aren't fearful enough to stop fanning the flames. Someone said recently on TV, I think Dan Savage, that their real aim is to literally get Obama eliminated. I pray not, but who would be surprised if that were the outcome of the hysteria they are fomenting? It was preciesly this sort of hateful hysteria that put JFK's life in danger. Remember, right wingers were handing out "Wanted" posters with JFK's picture and a list of their fantasized grievances against him in Dallas the week he was killed.

Agreed! Many Democrats

oleeb — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 20:20:30 +0000

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Agreed!

Many Democrats (especially the pathetic DC Dems) also have a self defeating hard headedness about prefering things the way they think they "ought" to be instead of dealing with the reality of how things are and how most of the nation is vs their set of preferences. In politics you either deal with both or you lose. And so for the better part of 40 years we've been losing fights that should have been won because the other side fights constantly and ours fights only rarely (if at all) because, in part, they prefer politics be conducted in their elite comfort zone which is far more academic, civil, collegial, and intellectual than politics in America has ever been. The average American not only doesn't want their leaders to be wimps, they don't respect wimps of any kind.

So, in super simplified terms we keep seeing the same pathological scenario played out of unpopular and even despised Republicans distracting the nation by making Democrats look like wimps and focusing voters on election day on that and that alone. "You may hate me, but do you really want a bunch of pussies running the show? At least I fight for what I believe and if anybody messes with America we'll kick their ass." It's a distorted and almost perverse manipulation but it's pretty undeniable. That's the crux of the problem and the sad fact is that far too many Democrats really are wimps so it's pretty easy work for the detestable Republican scum to portray them that way. But whether they actually are wimps or not, when Democrats allow the scum to portray them in this way and do nothing to fight back the demonstrates it is false, then as far as voters know, it is reality.