dagblog - Comments for "Democrats Now Have 60 Votes In The Senate What Excuses Will They Pawn Off On The Public Now When They Fail To Do What They Were Elected To Do?" http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/democrats-now-have-60-votes-senate-what-excuses-will-they-pawn-public-now-when-they Comments for "Democrats Now Have 60 Votes In The Senate What Excuses Will They Pawn Off On The Public Now When They Fail To Do What They Were Elected To Do?" en All of this only points up, http://dagblog.com/comment/18217#comment-18217 <a id="comment-18217"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/democrats-now-have-60-votes-senate-what-excuses-will-they-pawn-public-now-when-they">Democrats Now Have 60 Votes In The Senate What Excuses Will They Pawn Off On The Public Now When They Fail To Do What They Were Elected To Do?</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>All of this only points up, as <a href="http://www.openleft.com/diary/13970/socalled-moderates-have-become-the-problem" rel="nofollow">Chris Bowers has done</a> pretty effectively, that the Republicans are no longer the main problem. The conservadems are. That's where the fire has to go. </p> <p>And that's what <a href="https://www.democracyforamerica.com/contribution_pages/120" rel="nofollow">outfits like DFA are doing.</a> At the moment they're targeting Landrieu, having already targeted Nelson. Can you send some coin their way?</p></div></div></div> Thu, 02 Jul 2009 08:45:44 +0000 gharlane comment 18217 at http://dagblog.com Uh.... If I vote against http://dagblog.com/comment/18216#comment-18216 <a id="comment-18216"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/democrats-now-have-60-votes-senate-what-excuses-will-they-pawn-public-now-when-they">Democrats Now Have 60 Votes In The Senate What Excuses Will They Pawn Off On The Public Now When They Fail To Do What They Were Elected To Do?</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Uh....</p> <p>If I vote against entrenched corporate interests, then who will hire me for my seven-figure lobbying/"consulting" job (to which I am, of course, entitled) once I leave the House/Senate?</p> <p>Oh, wait... you said <i>excuses.</i></p> <p>How about: "America is still a center-right country"?</p> <p>Uh.... hmm. Stay tuned. I'll get back to you.</p></div></div></div> Thu, 02 Jul 2009 08:34:55 +0000 gharlane comment 18216 at http://dagblog.com Joe Lieberman. Poor Ben http://dagblog.com/comment/18215#comment-18215 <a id="comment-18215"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/democrats-now-have-60-votes-senate-what-excuses-will-they-pawn-public-now-when-they">Democrats Now Have 60 Votes In The Senate What Excuses Will They Pawn Off On The Public Now When They Fail To Do What They Were Elected To Do?</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Joe Lieberman.</p> <p>Poor Ben Nelson was already taken. Besides he at least comes from a conservative state. Joe? </p> <p>Ain't it a great system where the elected representatives of half of 21% of the population can still have forty senators and hold all legislation hostage.</p> <p>At least in the beginning it was explicit that you needed to own property to have a vote. Now you just need enough of it to control a few podunk towns. </p> <p>Love it or leave it.</p> <p><br /></p></div></div></div> Thu, 02 Jul 2009 05:45:27 +0000 Saladin comment 18215 at http://dagblog.com There is something you can do http://dagblog.com/comment/18214#comment-18214 <a id="comment-18214"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/democrats-now-have-60-votes-senate-what-excuses-will-they-pawn-public-now-when-they">Democrats Now Have 60 Votes In The Senate What Excuses Will They Pawn Off On The Public Now When They Fail To Do What They Were Elected To Do?</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>There is something you can do aside from writing... in particular about health care reform: Sign up at MyBarackObama.com (MyBo)...create an account... assuming you don't already have one... and you'll have instant access to health reform events (among a host of other issue-related events and groups to choose from) in your area. People are getting involved in the effort all over the country. </p> <p>Or Go to SEIU.org and sign the many petitions/send letters to reps and senators. Volunteer at any number of organizations. Just choose your issue and there's an organization out there that could use your help (again... MyBo is a good place to start). We can put the pressure on until they yell uncle. Blogging is great, but doesn't light a fire under the "reluctant" Dems in Congress. </p> <p>As for the Repubs... they've dug in their heals en mass on every issue. I say we write them off... much as they have done to us over the past eight years. Besides, they're only using "bipartisanship" as a catch phrase. The best we can do is to convince our Republican friends that the system has left All of us behind... We can leave it to them to badger their elected officails into doing the right thing.</p> <p>Keep a match lit under their butts is all I can say: Don't ask... tell!</p> <p>As for excuses... blogger up top has hit the nail smack on the head... However, we don't have to let them get away with it. Because, you know, I think what's "changed" is us... patsies no more!</p></div></div></div> Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:55:04 +0000 kfreed comment 18214 at http://dagblog.com And what is the most common http://dagblog.com/comment/18213#comment-18213 <a id="comment-18213"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/democrats-now-have-60-votes-senate-what-excuses-will-they-pawn-public-now-when-they">Democrats Now Have 60 Votes In The Senate What Excuses Will They Pawn Off On The Public Now When They Fail To Do What They Were Elected To Do?</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>And what is the most common excuse? </p> <p>"The Bluedogs did it."</p> <p>And when we one day look back at the numbers, that will likely be accurate.<br /></p></div></div></div> Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:54:38 +0000 JEP07 comment 18213 at http://dagblog.com There isn't even one living http://dagblog.com/comment/18212#comment-18212 <a id="comment-18212"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/democrats-now-have-60-votes-senate-what-excuses-will-they-pawn-public-now-when-they">Democrats Now Have 60 Votes In The Senate What Excuses Will They Pawn Off On The Public Now When They Fail To Do What They Were Elected To Do?</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>There isn't even one living Democratic Senator who didn't run on health care for all. Not one. Most of the "moderate" Democrats endorsed Obama's plans down the line. Now even Obama is unwilling to fight for those things, especially having to do with restoring civil liberty, the constitution and the rule of law.</p></div></div></div> Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:28:16 +0000 oleeb comment 18212 at http://dagblog.com If Ben Nelson wants to be the http://dagblog.com/comment/18211#comment-18211 <a id="comment-18211"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/democrats-now-have-60-votes-senate-what-excuses-will-they-pawn-public-now-when-they">Democrats Now Have 60 Votes In The Senate What Excuses Will They Pawn Off On The Public Now When They Fail To Do What They Were Elected To Do?</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>If Ben Nelson wants to be the Senator who kills Ted Kennedy's healthcare legacy, let this be the one and only thing that anyone ever remembers about Ben Nelson. </p></div></div></div> Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:04:14 +0000 bluebell comment 18211 at http://dagblog.com But they are NOT moderate. http://dagblog.com/comment/18210#comment-18210 <a id="comment-18210"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/democrats-now-have-60-votes-senate-what-excuses-will-they-pawn-public-now-when-they">Democrats Now Have 60 Votes In The Senate What Excuses Will They Pawn Off On The Public Now When They Fail To Do What They Were Elected To Do?</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>But they are NOT moderate. They are conservative corporatists. How can a Senator from Louisiana where healthcare is atrocious vote against universal healthcare? Who does she think she is - Marie Antoinette? </p></div></div></div> Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:59:53 +0000 bluebell comment 18210 at http://dagblog.com Well, if republicans had 60 http://dagblog.com/comment/18209#comment-18209 <a id="comment-18209"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/democrats-now-have-60-votes-senate-what-excuses-will-they-pawn-public-now-when-they">Democrats Now Have 60 Votes In The Senate What Excuses Will They Pawn Off On The Public Now When They Fail To Do What They Were Elected To Do?</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Well, if republicans had 60 they would be united in flushing our country down the toilet. They would vote en masse as they always do. Do the "right" thing? It has a whole different meaning to them.</p></div></div></div> Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:22:18 +0000 CVille Dem comment 18209 at http://dagblog.com Well, there was one Dem who http://dagblog.com/comment/18208#comment-18208 <a id="comment-18208"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/democrats-now-have-60-votes-senate-what-excuses-will-they-pawn-public-now-when-they">Democrats Now Have 60 Votes In The Senate What Excuses Will They Pawn Off On The Public Now When They Fail To Do What They Were Elected To Do?</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Well, there was one Dem who was elected to bring CHANGE. That was Barack Obama. If he has to strong-arm someone, I'm cool with that. If the few remaining knuckle-draggers have to be brought kicking and screaming to the idea that our country and its citizens need real health care reform, I'm cool with that. If the fear mongering wins, I am NOT cool with that. </p> <p>What exactly, is a "moderate" position on health care reform? </p> <p>Hint: It is not giving the insurance industry everything they want, and screwing the rest of us. </p> <p>Answer: Moderate would be a public option; the CORRECT step would be single payer. </p></div></div></div> Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:49:15 +0000 CVille Dem comment 18208 at http://dagblog.com