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A fine essay - one my New

Tom Shepard — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:55:53 +0000

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A fine essay - one my New Orleans-bred mother would've been proud to write. I'm late coming to this thread, but I feel lucky to have followed a recent reference on Deanie Mills' blog.

Keep it up!

I believe most of Idaho was

GregorZap — Fri, 29 May 2009 10:26:38 +0000

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I believe most of Idaho was "settled" by southerners fleeing the Dust Bowl, which is why many have southern drawls. Their parents were southerners. I guess having a racist heritage made it easy to displace the Natives as well.

The big question, if one is

GregorZap — Fri, 29 May 2009 10:14:25 +0000

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The big question, if one is determined to make the Southern vote about race, is how did they vote the last few cycles? Did it change for Obama? Well, yes, it did, the Dems got more. I'm not buying that the southern votes were racially charged. I don't see data to support that. Quite the opposite. It trends the other way, though not by much, enough to win.

Thanks for an honest look at

stillidealistic — Fri, 29 May 2009 07:18:07 +0000

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Thanks for an honest look at your family WW...I know it was not an easy one for you to write.

If its any consolation, 1/2 my family was from Pascagoula Miss, the other 1/2 from Twin Falls, Idaho and they are ALL incredibly prejudiced. I submit that it is perhaps WORSE that the Idaho folks are, as they had no culturally ingrained reason to be...

I rose above my upbringing, too.

If someone's grandma had been

bluemeanie — Fri, 29 May 2009 06:27:39 +0000

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If someone's grandma had been Jefferson Davis, this discussion would never have taken place.

I suspect we have philosophical differences regarding the perfectibility of man, but no matter. Shaky fingers or no, your last sentence is a keeper. Thanks.

For a Democrat to lose South

bluemeanie — Fri, 29 May 2009 06:17:30 +0000

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For a Democrat to lose South Carolina by less than 10 points is significant. I think your assessment of Republican voter sentiment tracks accurately with the results.

Race was as much a positive as it was a negative in a state that is nearly 40 percent African American. I canvassed deep-red, lily-white neighborhoods for Obama in October, and most of the folks I talked to wouldn't have voted for a Democratic candidate under any circumstances. Certainly race was an underlying factor, spoken or unspoken depending on who you were talking to. But the main drivers were taxes, "values" issues and defense.

Oh, yes, I forgot to explain

Faroff — Fri, 29 May 2009 05:03:15 +0000

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Oh, yes, I forgot to explain why Country has nothing to do with racism. The only subjects covered by Country Music are: 1. Trains, dogs, and divorces. In that order. The all time hits usually cover all three.

What are you talking about?

Faroff — Fri, 29 May 2009 05:00:56 +0000

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What are you talking about? Southern music has nothing to do with racism. That you couldn't think even of Charlie Pride makes it pretty obvious you know nothing about Country music.

Most from the north don't even vaguely understand or appreciate Country music. You think it is simple, when it really is much more complex than say, the Beatles. I know you won't like this, but Elvis really could sing.

If you ever listen closely to Country, you will find it has a great deal of humor. You are getting your leg pulled, and don't even know it.

Thank you, Dondi, although

wwstaebler — Fri, 29 May 2009 02:50:46 +0000

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Thank you, Dondi, although you have made me blush, not becoming in a woman of my age and stage.

The details are a little off,

seashell — Fri, 29 May 2009 00:42:52 +0000

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The details are a little off, but here ya go - confessions and amends and meeting John Lewis in DC, to apologize for beating him up 48 years earlier.

Lewis was a class act, praising the man for his “raw courage.” He is one of my favorites in Congress.