dagblog - Comments for "Cooked Intel &amp; Torture Abuse: So the &#039;Stovepipe&#039; Stops Where?" http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/cooked-intel-torture-abuse-so-stovepipe-stops-where-4237 Comments for "Cooked Intel & Torture Abuse: So the 'Stovepipe' Stops Where?" en   http://dagblog.com/comment/208089#comment-208089 <a id="comment-208089"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/208055#comment-208055">More on the Stovepipe...</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><img alt="" src="http://dagblog.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-4147.gif" style="height:39px; width:37px" /><em><strong>More for the Rabbit Hole . . .</strong></em></p> <p>From: Mother Jones</p> <div> <p><strong><a href="http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/05/michael-morell-bush-cheney-iraq-war">George W. Bush's CIA Briefer: Bush and Cheney<br /> Falsely Presented WMD Intelligence to Public</a></strong></p> <blockquote> <p><em>On "Hardball," Michael Morell concedes the Bush administration misled the nation into the Iraq War.</em></p> </blockquote> <p>—By David Corn | Tue May 19, 2015</p> </div> <blockquote> <p>President George Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, and their lieutenants misled the American public about the WMD threat supposedly posed by Saddam Hussein in order to grease the way to the invasion of Iraq. For Bush, Cheney, and the rest, this endeavor is fundamental; it is necessary to protect the legitimacy of the Bush II presidency. Naturally, Karl Rove and other Bushies have quickly tried to douse the Bush-lied-us-into-war fire whenever such flames have appeared. And in recent days, as Jeb Bush bumbled a question about the Iraq War, he and other GOPers have peddled the fictitious tale that his brother launched the invasion because he was presented lousy intelligence. But now there's a new witness who will make the Bush apologists' mission even more impossible: Michael Morell, a longtime CIA official who eventually became the agency's deputy director and acting director. During the preinvasion period, he served as Bush's intelligence briefer.</p> <p>Appearing on MSNBC's Hardball on Tuesday night, Morell made it clear: The Bush-Cheney administration publicly misrepresented the intelligence related to Iraq's supposed WMD program and Saddam's alleged links to Al Qaeda.</p> <p>Host Chris Matthews asked Morell about a statement Cheney made in 2003: "We know he [Saddam Hussein] has been absolutely devoted to trying to acquire nuclear weapons. And we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons." Here's the conversation that followed:</p> </blockquote> <blockquote> <p>MATTHEWS: <em>Was that true?</em></p> <p>MORELL: <em>We were saying—</em></p> <p>MATTHEWS: <em>Can you answer that question? Was that true?</em></p> <p>MORELL: <em>That's not true.</em></p> <p>MATTHEWS: <em>Well, why'd you let them get away with it?</em></p> <p>MORELL: <em>Look, my job Chris—</em></p> <p>MATTHEWS: <em>You're the briefer for the president on intelligence, you're the top person to go in and tell him what's going on. You see Cheney make this charge he's got a nuclear bomb and then they make subsequent charges he knew how to deliver it…and nobody raised their hand and said, "No that's not what we told him."</em></p> <p>MORELL: <em>Chris, Chris Chris, what's my job, right? My job—</em></p> <p>MATTHEWS: <em>To tell the truth.</em></p> <p>MORELL: <em>My job—no, as the briefer? As the briefer?</em></p> <p>MATTHEWS: <em>Okay, go ahead.</em></p> <p>MORELL: A<em>s the briefer, my job is to carry CIA's best information and best analysis to the president of the United States and make sure he understands it. My job is to not watch what they're saying on TV.</em></p> </blockquote> <blockquote> <p>The discussion went on:</p> </blockquote> <blockquote> <p>MATTHEWS: <em>So you're briefing the president on the reasons for war, they're selling the war, using your stuff, saying you made that case when you didn't. So they're using your credibility to make the case for war dishonestly, as you just admitted.</em></p> <p>MORELL: <em>Look, I'm just telling you—</em></p> <p>MATTHEWS: <em>You just admitted it.</em></p> <p>MORELL: <em>I'm just telling you what we said—</em></p> <p>MATTHEWS: <em>They gave a false presentation of what you said to them.</em></p> <p>MORELL: <em>On some aspects. On some aspects.</em></p> </blockquote> <blockquote> <p>There's the indictment, issued by the intelligence officer who briefed Bush and Cheney: The Bush White House made a "false presentation" on "some aspects" of the case for war. "That's a big deal," Matthews exclaimed. Morell replied, "It's a big deal."</p> <p>And there's more. Referring to the claims made by Bush, Cheney, and other administration officials that Saddam was in league with Al Qaeda, Morell noted, "What they were saying about the link between Iraq and Al Qaeda publicly was not what the intelligence community" had concluded. He added, "I think they were trying to make a stronger case for the war." That is, stronger than the truth would allow.</p> <p>Morell's remarks support the basic charge: Bush and Cheney were not misled by flawed intelligence; they used the flawed intelligence to mislead.</p> </blockquote> <p><a href="http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/05/michael-morell-bush-cheney-iraq-war">complete article --&gt;</a></p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Thu, 21 May 2015 01:02:36 +0000 oldenGoldenDecoy comment 208089 at http://dagblog.com More on the Stovepipe... http://dagblog.com/comment/208055#comment-208055 <a id="comment-208055"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/cooked-intel-torture-abuse-so-stovepipe-stops-where-4237">Cooked Intel &amp; Torture Abuse: So the &#039;Stovepipe&#039; Stops Where?</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><img alt="" src="http://dagblog.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-4147.gif" style="height:39px; width:37px" /><em><strong>The Bush Cheney Stovepipe ...</strong></em></p> <p>The latest article to point to where the Stovepipe leads...</p> <p>The Week - Ryan Cooper - May 19, 2015</p> <p><strong><a href="http://theweek.com/articles/555720/how-george-w-bush-dick-cheney-brought-torture-america">How George W. Bush and Dick Cheney brought torture to America</a></strong></p> <blockquote> <p>Tonight, <em>Frontline</em> will air a documentary called <em><a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/secrets-politics-and-torture/">Secrets, Politics, and Torture</a></em>, directed by Michael Kirk, about how President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney institutionalized torture in American politics and government.</p> <p>Three major developments explored in detail by Kirk drive home the extent to which Bush and Cheney worked to ingrain torture in the American state.</p> </blockquote> <p><a href="http://theweek.com/articles/555720/how-george-w-bush-dick-cheney-brought-torture-america">Read more --&gt;</a></p> <p>~OGD~</p> <p>.</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 19 May 2015 21:32:36 +0000 oldenGoldenDecoy comment 208055 at http://dagblog.com Anyone recall this post from http://dagblog.com/comment/201714#comment-201714 <a id="comment-201714"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/cooked-intel-torture-abuse-so-stovepipe-stops-where-4237">Cooked Intel &amp; Torture Abuse: So the &#039;Stovepipe&#039; Stops Where?</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><img alt="" src="http://www.dagblog.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-4147.gif" style="height:39px; width:37px" /><em><strong>Anyone recall the above post from the TPM Cafe days?</strong></em></p> <p>I'm simply continuing to dredge up the past to help connect it to the current ongoing yammering about the latest report from the Senate...</p> <p>Thanks for bearing with me...</p> <p>~OGD~</p> <p>.</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 10 Dec 2014 21:53:42 +0000 oldenGoldenDecoy comment 201714 at http://dagblog.com