dagblog - Comments for "Witch Hunts in Papua New Guinea: The Dark Side of Human Nature" http://dagblog.com/social-justice/modern-day-witch-hunting-papua-new-guinea-dark-side-human-nature-478 Comments for "Witch Hunts in Papua New Guinea: The Dark Side of Human Nature" en Yeah, that guy was weird in a http://dagblog.com/comment/3620#comment-3620 <a id="comment-3620"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/3617#comment-3617">My umbrage wasn&#039;t directed at</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Yeah, that guy was weird in a creepy sort of way, but I used to work for an anthropologist who would lecture foreign visitors about their own culture in a way that made me wish the earth would open and and swallow me to save me from the shame, so maybe I'm desensitized to the colonial masters mindset. What I really liked about the video were the faces of the tribe, especially the kids, interested in this new experience they were having. And again, I thought the recounting of the superstition at the end was instructive in understanding the witch hunting that is still going on.</p> <p>The one thing that did make me roll my eyes was the suggestion at the end that maybe the world should just let the killing continue because in 30 years their culture will be destroyed anyway. The destruction of culture line seemed a little dramatic--cultures are "destroyed" all the time as the world moves forward--and also I was a little taken aback at his cavalier attitude about the victims of murder. I'm guessing they wouldn't mind trading a 30 year acceleration of their culture destruction in exchange for, say, another 30 years of life.</p></div></div></div> Sat, 14 Feb 2009 16:58:00 +0000 Orlando comment 3620 at http://dagblog.com My umbrage wasn't directed at http://dagblog.com/comment/3617#comment-3617 <a id="comment-3617"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/3616#comment-3616">The main point was supposed</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>My umbrage wasn't directed at your post or the Amnesty International reports but rather the 60 Minutes story. The moment this Paul Raffaele guy started breathlessly speaking about looking for the physical evidence "that they actually do eat people," my B.S. detector went off. He later confidently told the journalists, "They eat everything except the teeth, the hair, and the nails. Everything." Uh huh. I guess that's why he never found his physical evidence.</p> <p>This quote from the critique I linked stood out to me:</p> <blockquote> <p>Korowai people have also had a lot to do with tourists since the late 1980s when their region became something of a pilgrimage site for adventure primitivists. People like Paul Raffaele, who brought <i>60 Minutes</i> to Wa-Wa, are commonplace in Papua. His work does not enhance understanding of the KorowaI but panders to a Western public hungry to consume the primitive. The Korowai, like other tribal groups portrayed by Raffaele, are presented by him through a series of either/ors: either they are bright-eyed upholders of a fragile Eden, or else they are darkly menacing, horrifying us with their cruel customs.</p> </blockquote> <p>I took a class in college about Western fascination with the Primitive in which I read many voyeuristic accounts like this one. Since the 17th century, Europeans from Columbus to Conrad have presented Native Americans, Africans, and Pacific Islanders exactly the same way: innocent and pure or cruel and terrible (and cannibalistic).</p> <p>The other quote I liked from the critique was this one:</p> <blockquote> <p>Those who saw the <i>60 Minutes</i> report perhaps did not notice the shorts being worn by members of the "forgotten" tribe, and the black plastic bags they were holding? And did audiences notice that they were speaking Bahasa Indonesia, rather than, as was claimed, an ancient dialect? And did anyone critically ask if the skull the journalist held might have been a prop, or whether the narrative about how the Korowai had enjoyed a cannibal feast had been spliced over mundane footage such as eating rice?</p> </blockquote> <p>That said, though cannabilism is dubious and the 60 Minutes report is attrocious, witch hunting is well documented throughout the world, and the Amnesty International reports about witch hunting in PNG seem credible. My reaction to video was just so visceral that I focused on that.</p></div></div></div> Sat, 14 Feb 2009 15:17:00 +0000 Michael Wolraich comment 3617 at http://dagblog.com The main point was supposed http://dagblog.com/comment/3616#comment-3616 <a id="comment-3616"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/3604#comment-3604">Witch hunting has a long</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The main point was supposed to be the witch hunts in PNG, which are documented by Amnesty International, among others. The video and the lore of the tribes in West Guinea were meant to be more of a backdrop of historical information. And I'm not as offended by the video as the guy who wrote the article you linked to. The video showed that the tribe was uneasy about, or even scared of, the foreigners until they started to communicate with one another, which seems to me pretty normal.</p> <p>I also don't think, based on the terrain of the island, that it's far fetched to think that there are people living there who have never seen Caucasians before. When I lived in South Korea, I met people who had never seen Caucasians before, although they had the benefit of television and movies to make the experience less scary I suppose.</p> <p>The cannibal lore exists, regardless of who started telling it, and it's the same rationale that's being used in the current witch hunts in PNG, sans the eating of human flesh. There could be people who don't believe the supersition but use it to settle scores. But there have to be enough people to believe that dark magic is used to kill people or the score-settlers wouldn't get very far. </p> <p>I can't comment on the Indonesian police, cited in the article, but another piece I watched suggested that the police are persona non grata in the Highlands of PNG, where tribal warfare is still common. They can't stop tribes from waging battles and it doesn't appear that they can stop mobs from murdering supposed witches either.</p> <p>The reason for the witch hunts might seem unbelievable, because of modern knowledge of causes of early death. But the phenomenon of witch hunts is not unique to PNG, especially in the metaphorical sense.</p></div></div></div> Sat, 14 Feb 2009 07:29:38 +0000 Orlando comment 3616 at http://dagblog.com Now why do I have the feeling http://dagblog.com/comment/3606#comment-3606 <a id="comment-3606"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/3604#comment-3604">Witch hunting has a long</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even">Now why do I have the feeling that we're about to see the first DOCUMENTED case of cannibalism? Have you taken leave of your senses, G? RUN for it, man.</div></div></div> Fri, 13 Feb 2009 22:49:37 +0000 quinn esq comment 3606 at http://dagblog.com Witch hunting has a long http://dagblog.com/comment/3604#comment-3604 <a id="comment-3604"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/social-justice/modern-day-witch-hunting-papua-new-guinea-dark-side-human-nature-478">Witch Hunts in Papua New Guinea: The Dark Side of Human Nature</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Witch hunting has a long history in many cultures, so I wouldn't be shocked if it happens in PNG, but this story stinks to me. It's sensationalist and fetishistic. I recommend <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/opinion/good-story-about-cannibals-pity-its-not-even-close-to-the-truth/2006/09/18/1158431641209.html?page=fullpage">this criticism</a> of the piece.</p> <p>There are many secondhand accounts of cannibalism and some circumstantial evidence like apparently gnawed bones, but there is no conclusive firsthand documentation of indigenous cannibalism (outside of starvation conditions) anywhere in the world ever. If you have can find an uncontroversial case, please let me know.</p> <p>On there other hand, there are numerous examples of "civilized" cultures fetishizing cannibalism and attributing the practice to every mysterious tribe they come accross. This Sixty Minutes story is only the latest instance of a centuries-long tradition.</p></div></div></div> Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:47:00 +0000 Michael Wolraich comment 3604 at http://dagblog.com