dagblog - Comments for "Meet Your New Roommate or Obama’s Plan to House the Guantanamo Prisoners" http://dagblog.com/politics/meet-your-new-roommate-or-obama-s-plan-house-guantanamo-prisoners-656 Comments for "Meet Your New Roommate or Obama’s Plan to House the Guantanamo Prisoners" en Whatever. You guys are so http://dagblog.com/comment/5506#comment-5506 <a id="comment-5506"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/5497#comment-5497">That would be best. Logic is</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Whatever. You guys are so mean. Stop picking on the girl.</p></div></div></div> Fri, 08 May 2009 13:23:37 +0000 Orlando comment 5506 at http://dagblog.com You coasties sure like to http://dagblog.com/comment/5499#comment-5499 <a id="comment-5499"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/5497#comment-5497">That would be best. Logic is</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>You coasties sure like to look down on us midwesterners...</p> <p> </p> <p>Using Google, I found this good example of which the O does speak:</p> <dl><dd>All Jackasses have long ears</dd><dd>Karl is a jackass</dd><dd>Therefore, Karl has long ears</dd></dl><p>I resisted the urge to substitute names...</p> <p>I like ellipses...</p> <p>My first link click through was for:</p> <blockquote> <p><a target="_self" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_equivocation">Equivocation</a> is the use in a <a target="_self" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syllogism" title="Syllogism">syllogism</a> (a logical chain of reasoning) of a term several times, but giving the term a different meaning each time.</p> </blockquote> <p>Alas I think it is tried and true (repulbicans seem to love this one):</p> <blockquote> <p><a target="_self" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deductive_fallacy"><b>deductive fallacy</b></a>, or <b>logical fallacy</b>, is defined as a deductive <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument" title="Argument">argument</a> that is invalid. The argument itself could have true <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premise" title="Premise">premises</a>, but still have a false <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_consequence" title="Logical consequence">conclusion</a><sup id="cite_ref-0" class="reference"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deductive_fallacy#cite_note-0"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a></sup>. Thus, a deductive fallacy is a fallacy where deduction goes wrong, and is no longer a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical" title="Logical" class="mw-redirect">logical</a> process.</p> </blockquote> <p>That is my 2 canadian pennies.</p></div></div></div> Fri, 08 May 2009 06:08:55 +0000 elliottness comment 5499 at http://dagblog.com That would be best. Logic is http://dagblog.com/comment/5497#comment-5497 <a id="comment-5497"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/5491#comment-5491">Great. I&#039;ll just stick to my</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>That would be best. Logic is hard.</p> <p>Seriously, I'm sorry to deflate your sense of midwestern achievement, but this is not a strawman fallacy. A strawman fallacy is an argument that you attribute to your opponent and then proceed to demolish the hell out of, when in fact, the argument that you've just demolished the hell out of is a total misrepresentation of your opponent's argument, which explains why it was so easy to demolish the hell out of. It's called "strawman" because demolishing the hell out of a misrepresented argument is like winning an epic battle with a strawman. It's not real.</p> <p>The fallacy you describe is the Asshat Fallacy.</p></div></div></div> Fri, 08 May 2009 04:31:00 +0000 Michael Wolraich comment 5497 at http://dagblog.com Great. I'll just stick to my http://dagblog.com/comment/5491#comment-5491 <a id="comment-5491"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/5490#comment-5490">Actually, I&#039;m not sure if</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Great. I'll just stick to my simple words from now on. <img border="0" src="/modules/tinymce/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/img/smiley-tongue-out.gif" alt="Tongue out" title="Tongue out" /></p></div></div></div> Thu, 07 May 2009 19:29:37 +0000 Orlando comment 5491 at http://dagblog.com Actually, I'm not sure if http://dagblog.com/comment/5490#comment-5490 <a id="comment-5490"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/politics/meet-your-new-roommate-or-obama-s-plan-house-guantanamo-prisoners-656">Meet Your New Roommate or Obama’s Plan to House the Guantanamo Prisoners</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Actually, I'm not sure if that qualifies as a strawman – unless they're claiming that this is an argument being presented by "the other side". (I'm sure Genghis will correct me if I'm wrong, as I'm no expert in the sophistic arts myself.) Of course, that does leave open what the proper terminology for such an argument is, and it's surely not a new type of argument from them. I think this fallacy is similar to the argument some pro-choicers make that if you don't support allowing abortion you need to be willing to adopt every child that's not wanted. (Don't get me wrong: I'm not wanting to make abortion illegal. I just find that particular argument to be flawed.)</p> <p>As I'm cogitating on it, "non sequitor" is the expression that comes to mind.</p></div></div></div> Thu, 07 May 2009 19:27:09 +0000 Nebton comment 5490 at http://dagblog.com