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Lis, you've hit the nail on

Ramona — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 12:08:50 +0000

In reply to As Dick would say, "I'VE HAD

Lis, you've hit the nail on the head. We do have to start locally and groom the kinds of leaders we want out there working for us.

Your analogy is perfect. At the federal level, we don't know what's going on out there, what kind of turbulence is causing problems for the pilots. We can only hope they know what they're doing up there in the clouds, and remembering their obligation to those of us in the back seats hanging on for dear life.

It doesn't help to be throwing rotten tomatoes at them while they're trying to get us to a safe place.

As Dick would say, "I'VE HAD

LisB — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 07:11:16 +0000

In reply to Shut your damned Enthusiasm Gap and get out there and DO something

As Dick would say, "I'VE HAD IT WITH THESE SNAKES ON A PLANE!"

We're all on the same plane, right? We're all trying to stay calm while the pilot manuevers around things we can't see. Because, face it, we're not in the cockpit, are we?

So let's give the pilot a break, and pay more attention to the things on the ground that are within our control....

....like, say, our own public schools. Our own town hall meetings. Our own city council meetings. Our own local politicians.

If you all want to tell people how you feel and what you think needs to be done, then get off your computers and get into your town halls.

Work from the ground up and stop waiting for Obama to trickle down like we all know Reagan did so well.

Seriously.

Well, as you know, I'm new to

stillidealistic — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 03:39:06 +0000

In reply to Stilli, I've been a Democrat

Well, as you know, I'm new to the dem party, and I can't say I'm thrilled with them (us) at the moment, but I do believe the dems are the best hope for the country. We HAVE to find a way to make the leaders of the party listen to us!

Miguel, thanks so much for

Ramona — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 02:57:28 +0000

In reply to I'll try to comply, and agree

Miguel, thanks so much for commenting on my blog. Gets a little lonely over there sometimes!

Stilli, I've been a Democrat

Ramona — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 01:57:34 +0000

In reply to I wasn't thrilled myself,

Stilli, I've been a Democrat for over 50 years. I will NOT let the Democrats of today kill our legacy and turn us into Republican lite. I don't believe they're all under the spell of the corporates. I do believe that the amount of money a candidate needs these days is obscene, and that has to change. I see many Dems who try and fight the system, but their voices aren't the voices that are heard enough. The numbers are growing, though, and I have to think it's because they finally see the damage their inaction (and sometimes treachery) has caused. We have to trust somebody, and I'm inclined to trust the Democrats much more than I'll ever trust the Republicans. I don't see a viable third party any time soon, so the reality is that, except for a few independents, we have to choose between Democrats or Republicans.

I see Al Franken there in the senate and I see an old-style Democrat. I'm watching Russ Feingold, a good man and the kind of Democrat we can be proud of, fighting for his political life. There are others who fit the mold and I'm encouraged by them. I'm sticking with them but I'm keeping my eyes open, and I'll slam them when I feel they need it.

But I won't give up, because after 50 years this is who I am.

If you don't scream out,

stillidealistic — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 01:22:43 +0000

In reply to Back at you stilliIf you

If you don't scream out, crying for help, you are no longer an innocent victim you are now complicit.

You would be hard pressed to find a woman who agreed with that statement. How one deals with the potential, is completely up to them. In some cases, fighting might be appropriate. In others, cooperation in hope of survival is a better choice. Choosing survival DOES NOT MAKE YOU COMPLICIT.

I wasn't thrilled myself,

stillidealistic — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 01:16:28 +0000

In reply to I'm not a big fan of the rape

I wasn't thrilled myself, but, I just picked up on what resistance said and went with it...

We ARE helpless this year. It's too late to do anything but to go for the lesser of two bad choices, in many cases. And, yes, Ramona, if we are by some stroke of luck able to pull this out, they ARE going to owe us. I'm just unsure of how we are going to collect given that the corporate masters own them lock stock and barrel.

It feels like we are in a damned if we do and damned if we don't situation.

I totally agree that we need

Ramona — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 00:50:56 +0000

In reply to I'll try to comply, and agree

I totally agree that we need to put a scare into the Dems, but how far do we go with that? Do we urge a certain percentage not to vote for them so they win by just a squeak instead of a landslide just to teach them a lesson? What if our calcs are off and the Repubs take the lead? Believe me, I've thought about this a lot. My fury at the Dems has to take a back seat to my fear of the Repubs and their move to the extreme Right Wing. We just can't have that--not now. Our society is at cliff's edge and if the Dems--the party in power--can't stop us from dropping off I don't know what will happen to us. I do know that with the Republicans in power we lose everything we've worked so hard for. There have been improvements, however slight, and we have to add to that, not give it all away.

We have to save our anger for later, as hard as that is to swallow. If there's another solution, I'm listening.

I'm not a big fan of the rape

LisB — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 00:06:22 +0000

In reply to Well, THAT'S depressing.

I'm not a big fan of the rape analogy either. Glad it's not just me.

Well, THAT'S depressing.

Ramona — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 00:01:12 +0000

In reply to Ramona, I'm just another

Well, THAT'S depressing. What is all this talk of rape? Is that what's happening to us by everyone in power? I have to believe the Dems know what's coming if they don't start thinking about the masses and adjust the programs to fit their needs. It's too late for them to make promises now. They're already percieved as nothing but false, uttering promises only to get the votes and then it's back to business as usual. They're going to have to understand that our patience is exhausted, and they had better shape up. Don't know how to do that without jeopardizing our own positions by giving the Repubs a jump ahead--at least in these weeks before the election. But I want them to know that if they do win they're going to be owing us a HUGE debt, and the way they pay up is by finally taking the Democratic party back to its liberal/progressive roots and making the working class their only special interest.

I'm not crazy about the idea of a third party, but we can't survive with a do-nothing congress. Something has to change--but not now. Not this year.