dagblog - Comments for "Alan Grayson's 'Taliban Dan Webster' Ad: Open Thread: Have an Opinion? Please Share It."

Really feelin' yer

we are stardust — Thu, 07 Oct 2010 20:51:44 +0000

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Really feelin' yer feathered-oats, there, are ya Pug? ;oP

My PRECIOUSSSS! the prize.

Obey — Thu, 07 Oct 2010 19:11:12 +0000

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My PRECIOUSSSS! the prize. Thanks Dick!

;0)

Ah yes. The title was a

Michael Wolraich — Thu, 07 Oct 2010 19:07:35 +0000

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Ah yes. The title was a collaborate effort between me and my publisher, with the publisher having the final say.

Them South-o-the-border

we are stardust — Thu, 07 Oct 2010 18:56:05 +0000

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Them South-o-the-border papayas and guavas mekkin' ya pretty smart, there Pig? ;o)

Me ... Referring to? I am

oldenGoldenDecoy — Thu, 07 Oct 2010 18:55:14 +0000

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Me ... Referring to?

I am simply referring to the cover. "Why the right keeps serving up whack job fantasies..."

Ridicule? Demonize? Po-tah-toe ... pah-ta-to . . .

I fully agree that some on the right are serving up whack job fantasies.

Although when putting on my right-wing glasses I could read that as not only ridicule, but an attempt to paint the right as wicked or evil. Eighteen (18% ) percent to 27 % (whichever poll one believes) is not ALL of those on the right.

Now ... I'm sure you did walk a fine line... in the text.

From following your comments at the Cafe to reading your thoughts here, I realize your intentions are good.

Quack! Quack!

~OGD~

No one is arguing that

we are stardust — Thu, 07 Oct 2010 18:54:44 +0000

In reply to Ouch . . .The video depicts a

No one is arguing that Webster is absolutely accauntable to his stated positions, and they're fair game.

Thanks for the link, Duck; I'd canceled his emails. Well, blocked, actually; his 'Unsubscribe' link goes nowhwere. I am also pissed he decided to go with the telecoms on net neutrality; that's HUGE for me. (Israel is a whole 'nother story...)

Yeah; satire is one thing,

we are stardust — Thu, 07 Oct 2010 18:48:53 +0000

In reply to Ridiculing opponents, on the

Yeah; satire is one thing, using their own true wods against them is fine; makin' stuff up outta whole cloth is vile, AND bound to backfire, as you say.

Didn't mean to question your editorial expertise, Genghis; I was afraid it was way too small-bore to be center stage. I do take some of this seriously, though: I worked active campaigns during the Willie Horton days...and saw how easily a lie could take wing.

Given the context the "submit

miguelitoh2o — Thu, 07 Oct 2010 18:37:56 +0000

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Given the context the "submit to me" was lifted from, and the way it's portrayed, I think it's not only wrong, but stupid for Grayson to run that ad, and even stupider to run it with so much time before the elections, as "Taliban Dan" can now easily counter it, and get out the message that Grayson's not playing straight.

I put it in the center b/c of

Michael Wolraich — Thu, 07 Oct 2010 18:30:41 +0000

In reply to Thanks, Genghis. I agree; I

I put it in the center b/c of the ad and b/c I think it's a really interesting question, but you're right, open threads should probably stay on the left.

OK, a more authorly answer then. The right wing has been using demonization tactics repeatedly and effectively for years. They did it back in the McCarthy era, and they started doing again in the 1970s--against homosexuals, blacks, feminists, secularists, and of course liberal "elitists." They invented conspiracy after conspiracy--from "secular humanism" to "the gay agenda" to Glenn Beck's communist-cum-fascist progressive movement. It's been highly effective in cementing right-wing control over the GOP (which was run by moderates until the 1990s) as well as in winning elections against Democrats. It's also tearing the country apart at the seams and crippling the government, as is particularly obvious this year.

But for all that, they're not the Taliban or anywhere close. Kos knows this, but he's trying to fight fire with fire by demonizing the demonizers. If he did it well--which he doesn't because he lacks the talent for real firebreathing demagoguery--it would probably work. But it would also deepen the bloody rifts diving the country and turn Congress into a daily food fight between Grayson clones and Bachmann clones.

Ouch . . .The video depicts a

oldenGoldenDecoy — Thu, 07 Oct 2010 18:21:09 +0000

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Ouch . . .

The video depicts a fasehood of Dan's quotation's from scripture? Not good.

Although Webster's position is "...true that he would prevent women from obtaining abortions even when the pregnancies result from rape, just as the ad says. And that goes for incest as well."

Nice to know that Webster believes that a woman's body and mind are not their own.

That, in my eyes makes him even more of a fundamentalist of the worst kind.

Now ... If you've had a problem with this add, I assume you complained to the guilty party?

If not, it's just a phone call or mouse click away.

Phone: 1-800-403-0303

Email: alangrayson@graysonforcongress.com

Address: 8419 Oak Park Road Orlando, FL 32819

I've sent my complaint. If you haven't, you should too.

~OGD~