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I've been thinking it will be

anna am — Thu, 11 Nov 2010 01:26:41 +0000

In reply to Sadly, you're right, Anna.

I've been thinking it will be stopped, it has to stop, for it seems like three lifetimes now. But the knot just seems to get pulled tighter and tighter.

Sadly, you're right, Anna.

Ramona — Thu, 11 Nov 2010 01:21:11 +0000

In reply to It's like watching a train

Sadly, you're right, Anna. It's the slow motion part that's so infuriating. Surely there's a point where it can be stopped, but nobody near the wheel knows how to turn it. Nobody near the brake knows how to pull it. And here we go, over the cliff.

It's like watching a train

anna am — Wed, 10 Nov 2010 23:51:02 +0000

In reply to The Repubs are so much better

It's like watching a train wreck in slow motion, Ramona.

You're reading my mind. The

Beetlejuice — Wed, 10 Nov 2010 20:52:50 +0000

In reply to The Repubs are so much better

You're reading my mind. The underlying intent of the GOPer's was to do exactly that...tease Obama and the Democrats to keep the Bu$h tax cuts alive long enough for them to win back a majority and the White House. That takes guts and determination...something missing from the Democrats and I wish they had some.

The Repubs are so much better

Ramona — Wed, 10 Nov 2010 19:09:18 +0000

In reply to Well, both O'Donnell and

The Repubs are so much better at this than the Dems will ever be. So the tax cuts are supposed to expire at the end of the year but the GOP has already talked the Dems into extending the temporary cuts for two years. Terrific. Right around the time of the election, where there's a good chance they'll win and then they can make them permanent. Any sane person could see right through that and do everything they could to let them expire, but no. . .

They president and the Dems are actually considering it. No strings, no bargaining, no nothing. Just like the bailouts, where we gave everything and got nothing in return. The Repubs don't even have to work at it. They get handed this stuff just because they say they want it. They don't even have to have the majority--all they have to do is act like it.

Good ol' Virg. Just lost the

Ramona — Wed, 10 Nov 2010 18:57:53 +0000

In reply to To think I never even heard

Good ol' Virg. Just lost the gubernatorial election and there he is, giving it all he's got for jobs, jobs, jobs. And on Fox Finance, no less! What a guy.

Makes me even sadder that he didn't have the money to make a righteous charge. (It's always about the money. Snyder had nothing else going for him that I could see.)

Totally agree, brewmn. It

AmericanDreamer — Wed, 10 Nov 2010 18:49:04 +0000

In reply to I noticed the "lonely' part

Totally agree, brewmn. It can be hard to complain about this much without sounding holier-than-thou, another charge leveled constantly against liberals over the years by Right-wing activists which may deter some liberals from doing so, who knows? My approach is just to ask people I know, who I think or know are likely to vote for my candidate, to vote, and not mix into that message, at that time, a plug for my candidate unless they seem receptive or inquire.

One of my local heroes is my friend John. John, who is very active doing very useful, public-spirited things, is unemployed--he is not bringing in any money to speak of for his efforts. (Fortunately for John and for us, his wife has a job.) One of our northern Virginia Reps, Dem Gerry Connolly, squeaked by by a few hundred votes. John talked to hundreds and hundreds of people door-to-door. And went back to many of them.

He is an extremely modest person--he consistently downplays his contributions. If you met him you would never know of some of his outstanding accomplishments because he's not into trying to impress other people with any of that. He's all about now and the future. So when he told me that he estimated that he was able to get 100 people who despise the Republicans but were going to sit this one out, out of disgust at what has happened these past two years, to get out and vote for Connolly, I am inclined to believe that is, if anything, an undercount.

I asked John if Connolly was going to treat he and his wife to a nice dinner out, on him, for quite possibly saving his job. He said, answering my rhetorical question, not likely. Connelly does not know and most likely never will. HT, John.

So many of us who are urging

Ramona — Wed, 10 Nov 2010 18:19:27 +0000

In reply to I noticed the "lonely' part

So many of us who are urging GOTV on our side have no problem understanding the apathy. I want the Democrats to win, but sometimes I feel like I'm fighting hardest against the Democrats themselves. Most of them are either sitting in a corner sucking their thumbs or are out there trying to win the votes of an enemy who wants no part of them. That gets us nowhere.

But I guess I'll never understand holding back your vote to make a statement. One less vote on our side gives clear advantage to the other side. We vote to make changes and we have that chance on the Federal level every two, four or six years, yet only a small percentage of voting-age Democrats did it this year. I would say that's unconscionable, except for the fact that the Dems didn't work all that hard to get the votes of the people who were out there in force two years ago. They had promises to keep, and, while there were achievements of sorts, they weren't the kinds of actions we thought would come when it was clear we were in a state of emergency.

Still, liberals/progressives choosing not to vote? Nothing could have made the RWNJs happier.

Well, both O'Donnell and

Beetlejuice — Wed, 10 Nov 2010 17:22:37 +0000

In reply to Michael Moore and Lawrence O'Donnell: Man, those Republicans! They get it!

Well, both O'Donnell and Moore are absolutely correct. The GOPer's haven't the slightest problem with pushing bad legislation thru and making it law while the Democrats let their good legislation get whittled down to nothing more than simple words on paper and have the damnest time getting anything passed that isn't ripe to be exploited by the GOPers. For instance, the GOPer's knew they didn't have enough support to make the original Bu$h tax cuts permanent, so they passed what they could using the reconciliation process hoping that within 10 years they could get the support necessary to make them permanent. That's gusty and it make just work even though they're the minority. So it makes me wonder why the Democrats didn't do the same with HCR and finance reform? Just think how much support it would have generated this past election cycle to get more Democrats in Congress to make them permanent. People fight harder to keep something they want rather than accept something that isn't what they were expecting.

To think I never even heard

wabby — Wed, 10 Nov 2010 16:55:27 +0000

In reply to Michael Moore and Lawrence O'Donnell: Man, those Republicans! They get it!

To think I never even heard the f-word until I was 16 years old! Seriously!. Mebbe we need some more Berneros to hammer it home for the Dems.