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Unh unh unh. They adopt the

anna am — Thu, 11 Nov 2010 23:43:36 +0000

In reply to What do you mean? Republicans

Unh unh unh. They adopt the role of underdogs in order to draw the part of the country that feels let down and left out to them.

It's the Checkers Speech approach to politics. Dick Nixon lit the way for them.

But the bastards actually hold all the cards (and I know you know that and you're just funnin' me, and making me smile).

...(internet) it's also the

NCD — Thu, 11 Nov 2010 23:24:20 +0000

In reply to Mmm ... Shakespeare

...(internet) it's also the greatest vehicle for purveying propaganda ever devised...

Internet sites may be good for 'purveying propaganda', but 'purveying' without believing don't amount to all that much. For effective purveying you need TV.

Internet 'propaganda' covers the entire spectrum so it is not an effective vehicle to turn propaganda into political power. It does not control the messages that general public receives. For that TV is the 'greatest vehicle'. It requires nothing more than a power button on a remote, a warm body, a TV and a couch.

TV 'news' and 'punditry' which act as a megaphone for government and/or corporate propaganda is the most powerful method of controlling the national dialogue today. I don't think Bush could have ginned the nation into war by trying to spread lies and disinformation on the web, and when election time rolls around, the big money primarily buys TV ads to slime the opponent, not web ads.

They do, you are right! And

tmccarthy0 — Thu, 11 Nov 2010 19:21:03 +0000

In reply to What do you mean? Republicans

They do, you are right! And you all really crack me up!!!!

I love this whole discussion, because Shakespeare is always relevant.

What do you mean? Republicans

MrSmith1 — Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:38:02 +0000

In reply to No fair. No application of

What do you mean? Republicans always think of themselves as underdogs.

No fair. No application of

anna am — Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:50:30 +0000

In reply to Hath not a Republican eyes?

No fair. No application of Shylock's speech when you're not talking about underdogs.

The pound of Cheney's flesh is a good idea though.

Hath not a Republican eyes?

MrSmith1 — Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:36:09 +0000

In reply to tm, I'd look to Portia's

Hath not a Republican eyes? If you prick them, will they not bleed ... and scream they want Health Care?

Personally, I think we need to take more than a pound of Dick Cheney's flesh in repayment for what he did.

tm, I'd look to Portia's

anna am — Thu, 11 Nov 2010 15:28:57 +0000

In reply to Yes..yes.. yes.

tm, I'd look to Portia's great speech for guidance. But a great discussion you opened here. Interpretation of Shakespeare on the net. What a thing.

the quality of mercy is not strained...

I mean, Hamlet himself is adrift and in an existential hell, with no idea who or what he should be, while Claudius is more true to himself than any other character in the play. Dick Cheney was true to himself too. And then you have G.W. Bush, true to the image of what he wanted his self to be. Still doing it with the book.

Yes..yes.. yes.

tmccarthy0 — Thu, 11 Nov 2010 05:50:47 +0000

In reply to Do as I say, not as I do?P.S.

Yes..yes.. yes.

Do as I say, not as I do?P.S.

MrSmith1 — Thu, 11 Nov 2010 05:44:48 +0000

In reply to That is the thing isn't it,

Do as I say, not as I do?

P.S. That's not the thing, the play is the thing. ("...by which I'll catch the conscience of the King.") :-)

That is the thing isn't it,

tmccarthy0 — Thu, 11 Nov 2010 05:19:26 +0000

In reply to Agreed. Oftentimes, you see

That is the thing isn't it, Polonius is a hypocrite, like so many parents, telling his kid to do right all the while spying on his kid... well what could be more true, and of course Laertes is rolling his eyes at his pops, he even says after the big speech he will take his leave. Bascially saying, whatever dad, but Polonius is correct, that the struggles are the same as we all have the struggle to be better, even if he cannot follow through himself. I think.