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Right, BofA has connections

Oxy Mora — Fri, 03 Dec 2010 04:48:36 +0000

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Right, BofA has connections back in the old country. Actually I like the idea of the leaks enough to get queasy thinking that they might not have happened. If, for example, a neocon like Palin is actually elected, wouldn't we be begging for wiki-leaks?

I've totally lost track about

we are stardust — Fri, 03 Dec 2010 03:02:35 +0000

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I've totally lost track about you, Assange and Wikileaks. But one thing I am sure of:

The governments (especially ours, and pressuring Sweden) got crazy to Get Him when he said he's about to release documents on BoA. There is nothing more sancrosanct than protecting Big Banking, and that includes alleged low-level disses of nations, including OURS.

I hope to hell he's right, and that the info will be forwarded to the newspapers even if he's in custody, or dead.

Sure, just belly up to the

Donal — Fri, 03 Dec 2010 00:51:12 +0000

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Sure, just belly up to the bar.

I humbly apologize for all

LisB — Fri, 03 Dec 2010 00:48:01 +0000

In reply to Stay Humble, My Friends.

I humbly apologize for all past and future wrongdoings. Can I haz a beer?

Stay Humble, My Friends.

Donal — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 21:37:21 +0000

In reply to Very well put, destor. It is

Stay Humble, My Friends. (urp)

Very well put, destor. It is

Atheist — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 20:59:31 +0000

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Very well put, destor. It is fun to speculate, and if done in moderation there's often not anything wrong with it, I'd argue, as long as we remember we're only speculating. I think things can get feisty when people pretend to have that deep knowledge and not realize that they're guessing just like everyone else is. Most of us (myself included) would benefit from remembering to stay humble.

One of the reasons these

Michael Maiello — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 20:48:10 +0000

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One of the reasons these "what's the motive" debates get so out of hand is that the rest of you can't really figure out what's going on within the mind of another person with the kind of accuracy and precision that I can.

Seriously, the Assange debate is a lot like so many of the Obama debates. Is Obama a compromiser who, deep in his heart, believes as I do? Is he a coward? Does he not believe as I do and is acting on his own beliefs? Is he a Kenyan antiocolonialist?

It's fun to speculate about the motivations of all these people but all we can really gauge are the effects of their actions. Concentrating too much on motive often (but not always) leads you right into a conversation cul de sac. It's also a big part of what Ghengis wrote about in "Blowing Smoke" (don't have a copy? Julian Assange has three!) Because, you know, without all of these unfalsifiable theories about motive it's really difficult to spin conspiratorial yarns about people. Which is why so many conservatives skipped right over "I don't agree with Democrats on tax policy" to "Democrats only advocate the tax policies they do because they want to confiscate all of our property and put us into hard labor on government owned farms, which they are building in Minnesota on land owned by Al Franken."

Sigh.

Worth reading, IMO:

we are stardust — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 20:39:56 +0000

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Worth reading, IMO: http://zunguzungu.wordpress.com/2010/11/29/julian-assange-and-the-computer-conspiracy-“to-destroy-this-invisible-government”/