dagblog - Comments for "Assange On the Spot + Update" http://dagblog.com/world-affairs/assange-spot-7665 Comments for "Assange On the Spot + Update" en I didn't mean, in my http://dagblog.com/comment/96662#comment-96662 <a id="comment-96662"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/96655#comment-96655">Well, as others have noted,</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I didn't mean, in my description of my ongoing mind game, that there was no evidence out there yet that would incline me to bet one way or the other. I was aware of most of what you said about the women who are accusing him. Who could hear those things about a case involving a complete unknown and not suspect something is rotten somewhere close to Denmark. Throw it into context and the reasons to be suspect increase dramatically. Add the fact that he might be technically guilty under a freakish law doesn't allay any suspicions that people are manipulating the situation and not necessarily for the most high-minded reasons. Being decreed a risk of running after he turned himself in and every person giving it half a thought would know that he would be followed out of the courtroom with a multinational coalition of the covert might mean there is something a bit disingenuous about that court ruling. <br /> I could go, on as I bet you could. Still, any right/wrong judgment of Wikileaks releasing the documents can be made without consideration of his guilt in the rape case. I could even find that he was guilty of a sex crime and did the release for reasons I don't support, and still be happy that he did it.</p><p> I donated a hundred bucks to the Manning Defebnse Fund this morning.</p></div></div></div> Thu, 09 Dec 2010 01:54:07 +0000 A Guy Called LULU comment 96662 at http://dagblog.com Well, as others have noted, http://dagblog.com/comment/96655#comment-96655 <a id="comment-96655"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/96552#comment-96552">Of course number three is the</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Well, as others have noted, this post is a Drudge-style thingie rather light on any information other than stuff stilted to make Assange look bad. When betting, a person should certainly take into account the fact that one of the young ladies was specifically obsessed with Assange, documented (google it dammit) her pursuit of him on facebook and subsequently bragged about the conquest - again publicly on social media - and even hosted a social event in his honor after the fact. It was after all of this that both women involved decided that they had indeed been raped. Additionally, it is a fact acknowledged by the prosecutor that both ladies collaborated on their stories in preparation of approaching the authorities. That's all stuff released by people speaking on the record - none of it mentioned here.</p><p>So, we actually do have an awful lot of information. In fact, we even know that in one instance he wore a condom and the damn thing broke - she blames him. Again, undisputed fact of the case. What exactly more do we need to know? Did they lube? It's bullshit. The only real debate here is if the law in Sweden is designed to illicit bogus rape accusations or is this just a one-off deal; seems to me their law is totally jacked. It is absolutely possible to purchase <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnyC_v0-DQ4">female condoms</a>. If the lady really felt that strongly about it - why isn't it HER responsibility to secure protection? End of story: bullshit.</p></div></div></div> Thu, 09 Dec 2010 01:03:00 +0000 kgb999 comment 96655 at http://dagblog.com Donal, you might like this http://dagblog.com/comment/96638#comment-96638 <a id="comment-96638"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/world-affairs/assange-spot-7665">Assange On the Spot + Update</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Donal, you might like this essay:</p><p><a href="http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2010/dec/07/wikileaks-moral-void/">http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2010/dec/07/wikileaks-moral-void/</a></p></div></div></div> Wed, 08 Dec 2010 22:58:52 +0000 artappraiser comment 96638 at http://dagblog.com Aaaarrrrggggghhhhh! http://dagblog.com/comment/96628#comment-96628 <a id="comment-96628"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/96623#comment-96623">Depends on who it is, and how</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><span style="COLOR: #993300; FONT-SIZE: medium">Aaaarrrrggggghhhhh!</span></p></div></div></div> Wed, 08 Dec 2010 22:15:26 +0000 we are stardust comment 96628 at http://dagblog.com Depends on who it is, and how http://dagblog.com/comment/96623#comment-96623 <a id="comment-96623"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/96618#comment-96618">If someone gives you the key</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Depends on who it is, and how much longer I have to serve. Ever heard the term, "Shot while escaping?"</p></div></div></div> Wed, 08 Dec 2010 22:09:16 +0000 Donal comment 96623 at http://dagblog.com If someone gives you the key http://dagblog.com/comment/96618#comment-96618 <a id="comment-96618"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/96550#comment-96550">When chocolate bars fall from</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><span style="FONT-SIZE: small">If someone gives you the key to your jail cell door, do you check to see if he believes in God or not before you unlock the door?</span></p> <p><span style="FONT-SIZE: small"><img title="Innocent" border="0" alt="Innocent" src="http://dagblog.com/sites/all/libraries/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/img/smiley-innocent.gif" /></span></p></div></div></div> Wed, 08 Dec 2010 21:31:00 +0000 we are stardust comment 96618 at http://dagblog.com U.S. Prosecutors Study http://dagblog.com/comment/96579#comment-96579 <a id="comment-96579"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/world-affairs/assange-spot-7665">Assange On the Spot + Update</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><blockquote><p>U.S. Prosecutors Study WikiLeaks Prosecution<br />By CHARLIE SAVAGE<br />Published: December 7, 2010<br /><br />WASHINGTON — The Justice Department, in considering whether and how it might indict Julian Assange, is looking beyond the Espionage Act of 1917 to other possible offenses, including conspiracy or trafficking in stolen property<strong>,</strong> according to officials familiar with the investigation. <br /><br />Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. acknowledged this week that there were problems with the Espionage Act, a World War I-era law....</p><p>“I don’t want to get into specifics here, but people would have a misimpression if the only statute you think that we are looking at is the Espionage Act,” Mr. Holder said Monday at a news conference. “That is certainly something that might play a role, but there are other statutes, other tools that we have at our disposal.”.....</p><p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/08/world/08leak.html?ref=todayspaper">http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/08/world/08leak.html?ref=todayspaper</a></p></blockquote></div></div></div> Wed, 08 Dec 2010 19:22:18 +0000 artappraiser comment 96579 at http://dagblog.com Assange is on the spot but http://dagblog.com/comment/96566#comment-96566 <a id="comment-96566"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/world-affairs/assange-spot-7665">Assange On the Spot + Update</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><span style="font-size: small;">Assange is on the spot but Manning is in solitary. </span></p><p><a href="http://www.couragetoresist.org/x/content/view/875/122/">http://www.couragetoresist.org/x/content/view/875/122/</a></p></div></div></div> Wed, 08 Dec 2010 18:50:13 +0000 A Guy Called LULU comment 96566 at http://dagblog.com Heavenly or sinfully good? I http://dagblog.com/comment/96563#comment-96563 <a id="comment-96563"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/96561#comment-96561">That depends on exactly how</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Heavenly or sinfully good? I can't decide. <img title="Smile" src="/sites/all/libraries/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/img/smiley-smile.gif" border="0" alt="Smile" /></p></div></div></div> Wed, 08 Dec 2010 18:31:18 +0000 Donal comment 96563 at http://dagblog.com That depends on exactly how http://dagblog.com/comment/96561#comment-96561 <a id="comment-96561"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/96550#comment-96550">When chocolate bars fall from</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>That depends on exactly how good they taste, no? I mean, if they're <em>heavenly</em>…</p></div></div></div> Wed, 08 Dec 2010 18:08:32 +0000 Atheist comment 96561 at http://dagblog.com