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Obey, damn, after the

Oxy Mora — Tue, 14 Dec 2010 03:35:09 +0000

In reply to Oxy, what the hell are you

Obey, damn, after the dentist--need a couple of implants--gonna have to wait till next year for the gold hubcaps. Shit, why are we talking SS and medicare, what we need is a senior dental plan. Is it too late to amend the package?

Huh? Oh yeah, I forgot,

artappraiser — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 23:44:29 +0000

In reply to Mr. Day, Ah'm from the Sooner

Huh? Oh yeah, I forgot, Sooners weren't a state until 1907, don't know nothin' bout no history, them founding fathers could just as well be furriners for the most part....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Carta#America

http://73827809.nhd.weebly.com/the-american-constititution-and-declarati...

Oxy, what the hell are you

Obey — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 22:47:44 +0000

In reply to Mr. Day, Ah'm from the Sooner

Oxy, what the hell are you doing back already? I thought you were off stimulatin' the economy for us, with your fancy 'dentistry' and 'trucks' and shit...? The Dow is only up 0.15% or something, W.T.F?!?!

Dude, get busy! Get yourself some gangsta bling on those pearly whites of yours. Get some accessories - those gold hubcaps that spin, or whatever. Seriously don't you love your country...?

Mr. Day, Ah'm from the Sooner

Oxy Mora — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 22:23:57 +0000

In reply to Of course the U.K. beat us in

Mr. Day, Ah'm from the Sooner state and I'll tell ya'll liberal asshats we got us a new law here thet don't allow no foreign based laws, just Amurican laws. England aint even got a written constitution, how they gonna tell us what to do. And we don want no Shurea law neither.

Of course the U.K. beat us in

Richard Day — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 22:00:23 +0000

In reply to Here in Britain we have

Of course the U.K. beat us in abolishing slavery by about thirty years.

And we pretend we have Miranda because of our Constitution and the U.K. also has Miranda warnings.

I did some research and discovered that the U.K. has writings that have become constitutional in effect. We pretend somehow that we invented Human Rights over here and the Right Wing over here thinks we made it all up anyway.

We need to get this

Richard Day — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 20:59:27 +0000

In reply to Thank you, Richard Day for

We need to get this discussion going. And I am so glad you posted this.

About every two months I go on a rant about our prison system, our judicial system of incarceration and private prisons. We need more of a discussion concerning this matter.

Three million of our brothers and sisters are sitting in stir right now participating in chain gangs or just thrown into dungeons that would remind one of those Turkish prisons.

Well done.

Yes it's a sorry picture.

artappraiser — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 19:47:14 +0000

In reply to Great post SleepinJeezua. The

Yes it's a sorry picture. That said, our public opinion that puts us on that list could be worse.

I was aghast at reading the following, and still find it hard to believe:

From Pew Global Attitudes Project, Released: December 2, 2010,

Muslim Publics Divided on Hamas and Hezbollah; Most Embrace a Role for Islam in Politics

Here in Britain we have

Ian Milne — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 19:42:34 +0000

In reply to Barbarism, American Style

Here in Britain we have stopped being barbaric and senseless at least by not having Capital Punishment.

It was abolished for murder in 1969. Although never applied, it remained on the statute book for certain other offences until 1998. The last executions took place in 1964, by hanging.
Dennie mentions the cases where people who are not guilty have paid the ultimate price.

One of the Murders by the State here on our behalf was of Timothy Evans who was hanged for the murder of his wife and child at the hands of another man called Christie
The story was told fully by Ewan McColl who wrote “Go down you murderes go down” sung here by Paddy Reilly.
I was going to print the words but the song more eloquently makes the point. Please listen to it.
More information here

Thank you, Richard Day for

Dennie Briggs — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 17:04:00 +0000

In reply to You know some have suggested

Thank you, Richard Day for your thoughtful reply.

I don’t personally believe in the death penalty for any offense. But I do believe that some offenders must be incarcerated for life, until we know more about the effects of the environment and what made them into what they became. Nor do I believe that prisons should become warehouses for stockpiling offenders. We speak of the offender as owing a debt to society and paying for it by his—or her—loss of freedom. How could one’s life in prison contribute to the betterment of us all?

Every prison could become a field laboratory where prisoners could pay that societal debt by assisting social scientists to study the many facets of crime. Prisons are microcosms of societies (although some are as large as small cities), characturing life in its rawness—over population, drug addiction, unemployment, bigotry, gangs, racketering, violence; yes, and even a hit-and-miss modicum of kindness—inflicted unintentionally. Every offender was once a child—what went wrong? Criminal justice programs lack opportunities for their students to learn first hand from offenders. Students in law, criminal justice, psychiatry, psychology, education, sociology, counseling, and so on, could do “internships” much as those do in medicine, learning alongside their professors, in “teaching prisons.”

Right up there with the best

cmaukonen — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 01:45:19 +0000

In reply to Great post SleepinJeezua. The

Right up there with the best of the best, aren't we.