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Artsy, that is a very

Oxy Mora — Tue, 14 Dec 2010 13:46:10 +0000

Artsy, that is a very perceptive notion (oxymoron?) . The single issue distinctiion fits right in with my current obsession, to break the banks up into competitive units--a movement that would cut across ideologies. I think the biggest supporters of smaller competitive units would be junior officers who would see their general manager credentials broadened.

Well here you go, Mike

artappraiser — Tue, 14 Dec 2010 13:33:09 +0000

In reply to Star, it's not me, I'm hardly

Well here you go, Mike Bloomberg and friends want you:

http://nolabels.org/

Must admit I certainly am sympathetic to the narrative they are pushing, partly because my experience in forum world has convinced me that labels cause a lot of problems and misunderstandings and don't seem to have much benefit. Even in our country's history it seems most of the successful "solidarity" movements have revolved around single issues, not ideologies where it's "us" v. "them." When things get to the point of solidifying into"us" v. "them" is when the solidarity thing starts to fail (unless someone manages to build a huge machine out of a label, of course, but they all ideology has disappeared by then anyways.) People shut down to really hearing what the other is saying just because he/she holds the label of an other, they just play the "us" vs. "them" game.

There are only two bumper

we are stardust — Tue, 14 Dec 2010 04:42:23 +0000

In reply to Star, it's not me, I'm hardly

There are only two bumper stickers worthy of stickin' on a car, by my lights. One is 'Come the Rapture, Can I Have Your Car?" and "Nuke the Whales". Both twisted, but in wholly different directions. The former didn't get me the finger, but it did get outraged Chrisitanists waiting for me to get back to my parked car, wantin' to have a word, please. ;o)

John Irving said in Owen Meany that 'a Joseph' is really an asexual man, and I make it a point to believe almost everything Irving tells me. ;o)

The verbiage and argument style Wally uses seem familiar; I admit I felt weird when there were folks at the Cafe blogging under three or four different pseuds, though if pressed, I couldn't say why exactly. Maybe buying into them as discrete bloggers: shorter: feeling foolish.

In order to sustain the rage

Elusive Trope — Tue, 14 Dec 2010 04:35:56 +0000

In reply to When coal in the stocking

In order to sustain the rage against the deal, it is imperative that one sustain a belief that the unemployment benefits were never in any real danger. None of us will ever know how it would have played out had there been the fight some claim to have wanted. Those who believe there was a serious risk of a Republican stalemate can't provide scientific evidence to definitively prove this was case. At the same time, they can't prove the coal wouldn't have shown up in the stocking. So this will have a tendency to lead to a lot of supeficial snide comments in both directions rather than a serious attempt to deal with the dynamics of the situation.

Star, it's not me, I'm hardly

Oxy Mora — Tue, 14 Dec 2010 04:32:07 +0000

In reply to Asking if you are a pseud

Star, it's not me, I'm hardly a major blogger. As for the labels, I don't know what to call myself. I was thinking of getting a car bumper sign reading "I am not a Republican" and drive around north Dallas with it just to see how many flip-offs I get. Just rambling here, but a neighbor of mind said he had just participated in a "live nativity scene, with animals and everything" It takes all kinds, doesn't it. I wouldn't know whether to be Joseph or one of the Wise Men, or maybe an ox., or a pseud. ;o)--by the way, is that like "over and out"? ;0)

Asking if you are a pseud

we are stardust — Tue, 14 Dec 2010 03:55:54 +0000

In reply to I'm a liberal Democrat, with

Asking if you are a pseud whom we know otherwise is hardly ad hominem. You have only responded to some of the critiques on the merits of your arguments, I notice. I just hate thinking we're being jacked around a bit, Wally. And I don't know the reference to CS & N. You do seem a bit Eddie Haskell, itf that's what you're implying.

Don't exactly know what anyone means any longer by 'liberal Democrat', either. They seem to come in so many shades and colors. ;o)

When coal in the stocking

Hey Wally — Tue, 14 Dec 2010 03:33:07 +0000

In reply to Wally is talking about coal

When coal in the stocking refers to being out of work and having your unemployment benefits end with no job in sight, a mortgage to pay, kids to feed and clothe...yes, it's serious stuff.

Yes, but CSNY performed it at

Hey Wally — Tue, 14 Dec 2010 03:31:00 +0000

In reply to That's Joni Mitchell :)

Yes, but CSNY performed it at Woodstock in Mitchell's absence. Their cover is the one I recall, although I'll concede Mitchell wrote it.

No, not a master of

Hey Wally — Tue, 14 Dec 2010 03:23:25 +0000

In reply to Has anyone besides me

No, not a master of pseuds...

What's the matter, you can't argue on merits, so instead thinking of going ad hominem? Put your suspicions aside and deal with my pen name's writing. Or can't you refrain from emulating Eddie Haskell?

That's Joni Mitchell :)

Dan Kervick — Tue, 14 Dec 2010 03:15:50 +0000

In reply to I'm a liberal Democrat, with

That's Joni Mitchell :)