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I'll pass that along,

Ramona — Tue, 11 Jan 2011 02:30:17 +0000

In reply to Thank you for your empathy, I

I'll pass that along, too--that you had to log out first. Hoping this is fixed soon. You're more than welcome, Resistance.

Thank you for your empathy, I

Resistance — Tue, 11 Jan 2011 02:21:45 +0000

In reply to Resistance, I'm so sorry

Thank you for your empathy, I was able to post the comment AFTER I log out and then logged in. Maybe that is all, that needed to be done.

keeping my fingers crossed

Again thanks Ramona, we must stay ever vigilante for fear censorship became a reality

Resistance, I'm so sorry

Ramona — Tue, 11 Jan 2011 00:32:14 +0000

In reply to Ramona I apologize, but the

Resistance, I'm so sorry you're having trouble. There are a couple of "techies" who are on top of it, trying to figure out what's going on, and I think they thought it was fixed but apparently not. I'll see what I can find out. Thanks for letting me know.

Ramona I apologize, but the

Resistance — Tue, 11 Jan 2011 00:11:00 +0000

In reply to No more Pussyfooting: The Republicans and the C of C are trying to Kill us

Ramona I apologize, but the comments are getting very thin, and I too was experiencing difficulty with commenting over the last few days.

I’ve just tried again,with the above comment and this is what it reads

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Thanks, Ramona. You post

Donal — Sun, 09 Jan 2011 17:32:00 +0000

In reply to No more Pussyfooting: The Republicans and the C of C are trying to Kill us

Thanks, Ramona. You post reminds me of an Alternative Radio talk I heard this weekend by Paul Cienfuegos. His #1 bugbear was the Citizen's United decision, and he took pains to remind us that corporations have been steadily gaining legal rights formerly reserved for citizens since the early 1900s. Cienfuegos further feels we have reduced ourselves to ineffective, single-issue activism - which reminded me of the question I posed here: Are the elite and working poor both too damaged and fragmented to work together for their own interests?

If a rose is a rose by any

Resistance — Sun, 09 Jan 2011 03:10:25 +0000

In reply to Exactly, Sleepin.

If a rose is a rose by any other name. Change the name. What is Christian love but, Social awareness

Why be stubborn; put the onus on the Christians, to live up to HIS values. Any Christian that denies, the good works of Jesus, ie. Feeding the poor, caring for the sick, forgiving one another, has proven they are not disciples and are Christian by name only.

You asked earlier “what direction do you think we should take moving forward? Then you asked “which side are you on”

Define the sides. The term means different things to different people

We don’t need to expound Socialism.

The Christain right wing of the Republican party, knows the Sermon on the Mount, they know Jesus fed a multitude, with a few fish and bread, gathered up from amongst the listeners, who were there that day. The food gathered was to feed the less fortunate; setting an example to be followed BY HIS FOLLOWERS .

Force the Christian right, to own up to their duties; as Christians, not as Socialists.

Words have meanings

We need our own Frank Lutz.

The Christian Right fears the term LIBERAL.

What connotations does the term Liberal have or Socialism or Christian love.

Do they have separate and distinct meanings or is there a common factor. My understanding of liberal, might be different than another.

Talk about a messaging problem, if the term means different things, to different folks.

Except; I suspect, rather than find the ground that unites an American population to a culture of Christian/Socialism, the liberals will keep the divisiveness going.

The reason: What ally, would the liberal wing of the democratic party have, if the socialist wing found common ground with the Christian Right?

Consider this, if some Christians who view charity and sharing and caring for one another, just as their master told them was a true mark of Christian love.

Do we have to call that Socialism or can we call it Christian love.

Will a liberal except a rose by another name? The name Christian offends some liberals just as the term Socialist offends the Christian Right? Although if the name was removed and the common action was imposed, wouldn’t we receive the benefits we seek?

It’s a sorry thing; the words get in the way It would be beneficial to those of us on the left, favoring a more Socialist agenda; (that is, if the term Socialist, was the same as what the Christians consider being a good Christian).

Break up the alliance.

The oligarchy and the commercial interests have convinced the Christian Right to fear the terms Socialism and liberal.

Do we care what we call it, as long as we get the result we seek.

A rose by any other name is still a rose. What is Christian love but, Social awareness

The Coffee Party is joining

Ramona — Sun, 09 Jan 2011 02:51:58 +0000

In reply to "We have a lot of work to do,

The Coffee Party is joining with other organizations at For the People Summit, Jan. 20-22. Info here:

http://www.movementforthepeople.org/

Wish I could be there, but I'll be checking in online to see what they're up to.

"We have a lot of work to do,

we are stardust — Sat, 08 Jan 2011 22:56:44 +0000

In reply to My hope is that the choices

"We have a lot of work to do, and a big part of it is going to be "pursuading" the Dems that our best interests had better be their best interests. That's what we need to work on: How to get that done."

Bingo!

About 3:30 this morning I read a story about a recent poll that showed the number of voters indentifying as Democrats was waaaay down; I can't even say where I saw it, but besides some Sheep Factor being at work after elections, it's clear Dems ain't gettin' through to the vast array of middle class Americans. By and large, those at the top don't give a fig for us, and haven't had to give a fig. As you implied earlier: we make noise; no one listens. Guess the noise has to be smarter and louder. Somehow.

Wish I could go to one of those Coffee demonstrations. Jan. 20 -something is one, eh?

Exactly, Sleepin.

Ramona — Sat, 08 Jan 2011 22:00:00 +0000

In reply to Ramona, I think what I read

Exactly, Sleepin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iAIM02kv0g

There's a war going on and we had better know who our true enemies are.

My hope is that the choices

Ramona — Sat, 08 Jan 2011 21:08:00 +0000

In reply to Sorry; I was unclear. I

My hope is that the choices may be so stark, Dems might be pushed to become advocates for good people-policy again.

I hope you're right, Stardust. I understand about the mid-terms, but when the Republicans promised to stop everything in its tracks and threatened to shut down the government, if need be, right after they announced the immediate set up of a slew of phony hearings to throw monkeywrenches into the works, I actually thought more people would think twice about putting that bunch anywhere near a seat of power.

We have a lot of work to do, and a big part of it is going to be "pursuading" the Dems that our best interests had better be their best interests. That's what we need to work on: How to get that done.