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Robbit, the better course

Resistance — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 13:38:33 +0000

Robbit, the better course for me, is to disengage the dialogue with Jolly, when he gets in this mode.

I'd prefer he sought the truth about God and live, He talks tough, he's defiant, we'll see.......as for me, I'm not looking for trouble, I've got enough. The World throws enough trouble my way.

Sacred things are pearls to God and me, and all he does is trample them.

He has been warned before from others, but he disregards counsel. That's his lawless nature

Mention a book or a word, and he be comes unglued.......You'll find he's no dummy, he's just mad,

On other subjects, he's good at conversation and I like him. Sometimes he's real funny and insightful and other times he's very lewd and disgusting and very full of hate.

I feel I should get up and clean myself off, from the disgusting things he throws out there.

If that is what type of person he wants to be, it's his choice, I think it detracts from the wonderful things he can bring to the table.

I prefer a clean table, so I will not seek him out, if he arrives there’s not much I can do, it's not my house.

Not really sure what they

Verified Atheist — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 13:31:15 +0000

In reply to Loved all the perception

Not really sure what they were intended to prove or disprove about the existence or not of God.

Actually, the perception tests arose out of a third (or fourth) possibility. Specifically, I had made the point that the existence of god(s) was computable, because one program would state that god(s) exist, and another that god(s) do not exist, and by the law of the excluded middle, one of them must be right. However, the law of the excluded middle assumes that you're not dealing with three-valued or four-valued logic. For more on the idea, I recommend reading this link on dialetheism.

mageduley - I'm not quite

TJ — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 12:55:18 +0000

In reply to But it's fair to say that if

mageduley - I'm not quite sure if you're confirming my statement or Emma's. So let me just say, what determines if the glass is half full or half empty? Why do some see the world as hostile and threatening while others see a supportive and nurturing universe? Why are some people suspicious when others are trusting? Why, in the face of overwhelming evidence, do some believe the planet is only 6000 or 10,000 years old? Or my personal favorite: the optimist believes this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist is afraid he's right.

ps How many believed Barack Obama to be a liberal and are now "exhausted from apologizing" for his actions, refusing to see that he is more conservative than they believed?

A book? A jive ass book, the

jollyroger — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 07:22:14 +0000

In reply to I really haven't been

A book? A jive ass book, the invention of those very gangsters I mentioned, translated fifth hand, written to justify genocide and oppression? You ask me to banter about a BOOK? We don't need no stinkin' book. If I don't hear it straight from my cousin. it ain't shit to me. Not five minutes ago, he was pissing and moaning about these jive hustlers talkin' like they had his back when all they wanted was to grab some action...to tell you the truth, he ain't crazy about you either...sorry bout your luck, pard.

I really haven't been

robbit — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 06:00:39 +0000

In reply to Did I talk any shit bout

I really haven't been folowing your previous religious discussions, so let me ask a question.

In the Old testament, Yahweh alone created and sustains all things (Job 9:8: Isiah 44:24: Nehemiah 9:6). Yahweh is immutable in contrast to nature which is mutable (Psalms 102:25-30; Malachi 3:6).

In the New Testament, Jesus created and sustains all things (John 1:3, 10; Colossians 1:16-17; Hebrews 1:2-3; 10-12). Jesus is immutable (Hebrews 1:10-12; 13:8).

Since the New Testament writers equate Yahweh and Jesus, wheredo you make the differentiation?

Did I talk any shit bout

jollyroger — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 05:23:50 +0000

In reply to Jesus' traveling band

Did I talk any shit bout Jesus?. I love me some Jesus-Say yes to Jesus; just say NO to Yahweh

I could go on, but as you can

jollyroger — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 05:17:10 +0000

In reply to We are entitled to take

I could go on, but as you can tell, I would risk cardiovascular accident. The thing about abomination and shellfish, tho? That part might be true, cuz I had some bad shrimp once , and I wanna tell ya' what happened in the bathroom later was definitely an abomination, not to mention a stench in the nostrils of the lord....

Jesus' traveling band

robbit — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 05:02:21 +0000

In reply to By his fruits shall we know

Jesus' traveling band included the 12 disciples and several women who supporeted the ministry.(Luke 8:1-3)

"There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus" (Galatians 3:28).

In ancient Israe, women had limited social roles. The term "son of Abaham was used as a term of respect.There was no similar term of respect for women. Jesus altered this by referring to a woman's daughter as a "daughter of Abraham". (Luke 13:16)

The author of the Gospel of Luke and of Acts shows many parallel episodes: one relating to a woman, the other to a man. For example:

	Simeon and Hannah in Luke 2:25-38
	Widow of Sarepta and Naaman in Luke 4:25-38
	Healing of a man possessed by a demon and the healing of the mother of Peter's wife, starting in Luke 4:31
	The woman who had lived a sinful life and Simon, starting in Luke 7:36
	A man and woman sleeping together in Luke 17:34
	Ananias and Sapphira in Acts 5:1-11
	Dionysius and Damaris in Acts 17:34
	Lydia and the jailer's conversion in Acts 16:14-34 This is focusing on how Jesus treated women.

We are entitled to take

jollyroger — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 05:00:32 +0000

In reply to But it's fair to say that if

We are entitled to take Yahweh's PR (aka, teh bible...) at face value, are we not? If they told stories like that bout me, I'd get a new publicist. First crack out of the box, a violation of a Geneva Convention (mock execution...) Busts Abe's balls til the kid can't stand his father's impotence and humiliation and volunteers so his father's misery will cease. Fuck that gangster, the horse he rode in on, and his gangster goombahs too! Oh and by the way, you sick fuck, you caricature of a deity, what's up with the dick mutilation? If it was the front of your pinky it would be child abuse, straight up.

But it's fair to say that if

mageduley — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 04:19:21 +0000

In reply to " In turn, what we believe

But it's fair to say that if any of us leaving this church saw Abraham on a roof of a building raising his knife [to kill his son], we would, at the very least, call the police and expect the Department of Children and Family Services to take Isaac away from Abraham. We would do so because we do not hear what Abraham hears, do not see what Abraham sees, true as those experiences may be. So the best we can do is act in accordance with those things that we all see, and that we all hear, be it common laws or basic reason.

- Barack Obama, Call to Renewal, June 2006

(emphasis mine)